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markymc1983


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Coup Droit wrote:

Well, perhaps but that's now quite how the Minister put it across.


The Ministry issued a statement which, from the Polish news, included (under various translations):


"The Russian woman is on the list of persons whose stay is undesirable in the territory of the Republic of Poland, she was not admitted by the Border Guard due to state security and protection of the public," the ministry added.


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"Polands interior ministry said that Zvonareva is on a list of people considered undesirable in the country."


If she's on a list, she's on a list, no matter which airport she came from.


If the 'list' bit is a mistranslation, then fine.


 


My take from reading various Polish sites (admittedly via my browsers translate function) is that the list part is a generic list on which is Russian sportspersons rather than a list of individual names. A few mention surprise that she tried to circumvent Poland's ban on Russian sportspeople entering the country. Zvonareva has previously expressed opposition to the war.

 Yes I remember Zvonareva had hand written No War on one of her caps during one of the clay events last year



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Yes, but if she's still a member of CSKA that may be more important (actions and words, and all that)

And it might not be fair but it probably doesn't help that Vera did her Masters degree at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

And then, I believe, worked for the government, in that Ministry, for a while.

Putin was, obviously, still the Russian leader then.

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And saying No War is a meaningless statement - it doesnt say anything about your views or who you support, it could mean no war, give in and let us win, or whatever. It has no real value , I dont think, actions speak louder. And I realise many of the Russians dont want to put themselves above the political parapet and jeopardise their safety , thats fine , but for now they have to accept there may be other sporting consequences

Athletics, I believe , has completely banned Russians for now - they dont get the same gnashing of teeth tennis seems to get.

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But back to my point earlier - the Europeans such as France seem to have a much harder time not letting the Russians play freely than we do in the UK, is that the perception others have or see when out in France or Spain?

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Naiktha has taken the first set from the no2 seed 6-4

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Naiktha 6-4 2-6

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Naiktha went a break up in the third, faced a break point on her own serve but saved it and now leads 4-2.

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Now 4-4

#fingerscrossed

PS For British side interest, Jo Garland had a very easy win over Knutson

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Real shame......

But an excellent effot

Naiktha lost 4-6 in the third

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Naiktha loses 6-4 2-6 4-6

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Heather gets (3)Siniakova, Jodie gets a qualifier.



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Q1: BAINS, Naiktha (GBR) 298 lost to SRAMKOVA, Rebecca (SVK) (2) 171 6-4 2-6 4-6

R1: WATSON, Heather (GBR) 146 (CH=38 2015) v SINIAKOVA, Katerina (CZE) (3) 36 (CH=31 2018)
The met in Dubai in 2020 with Katerina winning 2 & 5
R1: BURRAGE, Jodie (GBR) 95 =CH v Qualifier



-- Edited by Peter too on Monday 24th of July 2023 12:59:33 PM

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Doubles - all in different quarters of the draw

L16:- Naiktha Bains (GBR) / Maia Lumsden (GBR) CR189 (94+95) v Martyna Kubka (POL) / Natalija Stevanovic (SRB) CR576 (290+286)

L16:- Nigina Abduraimova (UZB) / Jodie Burrage (GBR) CR709 (228+481) v Weronika Falkowska (POL) / Katarzyna Piter (POL) CR210 (92+118)

L16:- Alicia Barnett (GBR) / Olivia Nicholls (GBR) CR160 (79+81) v Maja Chwalinska (POL) / J. Ponchet (FRA) CR478 (284+194)

L16:- Heather Watson (GBR) / Y. Wickmayer (BEL) CR162 (180+82) v Natela Dzalamidze (GEO) / Monica Niculescu (ROU) CR122 (74+48) (2)
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JonH comes home wrote:

And saying No War is a meaningless statement - it doesnt say anything about your views or who you support, it could mean no war, give in and let us win, or whatever. It has no real value , I dont think, actions speak louder. And I realise many of the Russians dont want to put themselves above the political parapet and jeopardise their safety , thats fine , but for now they have to accept there may be other sporting consequences

Athletics, I believe , has completely banned Russians for now - they dont get the same gnashing of teeth tennis seems to get.

 Spot on. No War is about as meaningful as saying No Chocolate.  The core point for me is that the WTA has shown no courage or leadership on this matter. To cut to the chase Ukrainian women are being killed, raped and tortured by Russian soldiers on a daily basis. There is no moral argument that can possibly support a Ukrainian female tennis player being forced to stand on the other side of the net from a Russian or Belarussian player. The WTA is a women's organisation which is failing women at this moment in time. 



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It looks like there has been a re jig in the doubles as Alicia & Olivia have been promoted to a seeding spot and now face Heather.



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