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HarryGem


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9vicman wrote:

The big picture is that this was a W100 draw with a really weak entry and 140 points that could have taken her 20 places up the rankings. 140 points that would stay on the rankings for 12 months. She'd need to reach the final of the WTA250 event in Warsaw to get that many points.

Appreciate that the life of a tennis player is full of ups and downs, but it's the performances away from the British grass court season that will determine a player's true status.

 Absolutely. Our GB women get a very decisive advantage over the summer with a short grass court season where they are afforded a decent number of wild card entries to competitions where the entry field is often weak and with players who simply don't know how to play on grass. All helps to give them a ranking which is probably higher than their overall ability merits. Whether they can kick on on other surfaces is a key point and one in which I'd say the majority of our current top players have not yet really proved themselves over a prolonged period.

Katie B and Jodie now have a great chance to show they can play on other surfaces at a level consistent with their ranking. Also high time GB women started to learn how to play on clay. To sustain  a high level ranking you really need to be able to play not just on grass.

 



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Sorry but I cant agree that the grass court tournaments are weak apart from Nottingham. They are pretty strong actually.

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wolf wrote:

Sorry but I cant agree that the grass court tournaments are weak apart from Nottingham. They are pretty strong actually.

Even Nottingham wasn't weak for a 250, but the top players Sakkari, Haddad Maia and Vekic all underperformed.

However the Brits do benefit from several wild cards on surface where they tend to be more comfortable than many of the other players.



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And they are generally less familiar with clay than other players. Swings and roundabouts but I don't really overall see that our players are overranked against their overall ability



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Most Brits play most often on "Hard". I can only think of Mandy that sought clay  - though others have gained points from RG.



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indiana wrote:

And they are generally less familiar with clay than other players. Swings and roundabouts but I don't really overall see that our players are overranked against their overall ability

 I agree.

I think all home players for Grand Slam countries probably earn more money than they 'should'

Because prize money is SO heavily weighted towards Grand Slams and, of course, you don't need to win anything to get the prize money

So, lucky for the UK players. But also the French, US and Australian ones. 

And I realise that once you're in it, you've now got the chance of picking up points that you wouldnt have had if you weren't from that home country. But that's a whole load more difficult (hence, we have so many who are knocked out in the first round, as do the French in RG etc.). 



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Strongbow wrote:

Most Brits play most often on "Hard". I can only think of Mandy that sought clay  - though others have gained points from RG.

 Jan would be the other obvious clay courter

And he actually did OK on grass smile



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Coup Droit wrote:

Strongbow wrote:

Most Brits play most often on "Hard". I can only think of Mandy that sought clay  - though others have gained points from RG.

 Jan would be the other obvious clay courter

And he actually did OK on grass smile



How can Fran Jones not be mentioned in a conversation on our clay courters? wink

Emily Appleton preferred clay in her teenage years, though doesn't play on it so much now. And Sonay seems to choose clay over hard much of the time when not playing a home event.

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She has been mentioned - you're mentioning her

Strongbow put forward Mandy. I put forward Jan. And you're putting forward Fran (and Sonay)

All good

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Where is sonay??

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Blue_Belle wrote:

Where is sonay??

 She is 4th on the acceptance list for the W25 at Horb in Germany (outdoor clay). The main draw hasn't been made yet.



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Where is sonay??

 She is 4th on the acceptance list for the W25 at Horb in Germany (outdoor clay). The main draw hasn't been made yet.

 She's in the main draw, seeded 4.



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There is still one qualifier match to be completed on Wednesday, so Sonay's opponent won't be decided until that qualifier match is completed and the qualifiers placed. 



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GAMEOVER wrote:
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9vicman wrote:

It's not a particularly strong entry, with Jodie top seed if she plays. 140 points for the winner, which would represent a rise of 20 places in the rankings. Loads of points at this level.

Talking of which, Arantxa Rus, who lost 2R qualifying at Wimbledon, ended up gaining 250 ranking points (more than 4th round at Wimbledon) after winning titles at a W40 and WTA125 event. She also won a WTA125 event before Wimbedon, so now stands at No. 62 in the rankings, just one below her career high.

 Players must fancy winning their opening match in a Grand Slam if they draw Arantxa Rus. She reached the 3rd round of Wimbledon in 2012 and since then has played in 19 Grand Slams winning only 1 match. That win was in the 2020 Australian Open where she beat Magda Linette who was a semi finalist in this years Australian Open.

I need to apologise to Arantxa Rus, who today reached her first tour final in Hamburg. Winning can become a habit. Really pleased for her.



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