Week 29 - ITF W100 - Vitoria-Gasteiz, Spain Hard

MrTSymonds · Junior player

Week 29 - ITF W100 - Vitoria-Gasteiz, Spain Hard

GAMEOVER · Satellite level

9vicman wrote:
9vicman wrote:
It's not a particularly strong entry, with Jodie top seed if she plays. 140 points for the winner, which would represent a rise of 20 places in the rankings. Loads of points at this level.
Talking of which, Arantxa Rus, who lost 2R qualifying at Wimbledon, ended up gaining 250 ranking points (more than 4th round at Wimbledon) after winning titles at a W40 and WTA125 event. She also won a WTA125 event before Wimbedon, so now stands at No. 62 in the rankings, just one below her career high.

Players must fancy winning their opening match in a Grand Slam if they draw Arantxa Rus. She reached the 3rd round of Wimbledon in 2012 and since then has played in 19 Grand Slams winning only 1 match. That win was in the 2020 Australian Open where she beat Magda Linette who was a semi finalist in this years Australian Open.

seagull · Hall of fame

MrTSymonds wrote:
250 points. Watson, Dart and Swan are 250 points short of automatic entry to the US Open.

They will have to go through qualifying.

They need to ensure that they are up to 95th before the Aussie open. The cut off of which is December 5th.

Broady is 122 points away.
Choinski is 217 points away.

Broady has 135 to defend so 257 to get.

Choinski is defending 201 so needs 428. Tough.

Dart is defending 194 so needs 446. Eesh.

Swan is defending 278 so needs 528, but she did that from very few events so clearly is decent on Hard.

Boulter showed earlier this year how sensible selection of events can see a very quick accumulation of points. Murray may look back in hindsight and think that if he had have played at (I think it was) Eastbourne instead of Queens he would have ended up seeded.

It feels like with £55k for losing in the first round, the benefits of just qualifying for the Aussie open outweigh the costs incurred in getting there.

Burrage and Boulter are defending very few points this side of Christmas and should be really able to make quick gains up the rankings.

Nice post thanks...But Murray would not have been seeded even he had won Eastbourne as seedings were decided on previous weeks rankings

MrTSymonds · Junior player

You're right. I meant Ilkley (third time lucky). If he had have played Ilkley instead of Queens it would have counted.

-- Edited by MrTSymonds on Monday 17th of July 2023 12:12:25 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Peter too wrote:
Q1: LINDH, Emilie (GBR) (9) 636 def SHINDE, Vasanti (IND) UNR 6-0 4-6 6-2

Q2: LINDH, Emilie (GBR) (9) 636 (CH=550 2023) v REY GARCIA, Alba (ESP) (8) 625 (CH=593 2023)
They met in 2021 with Emilie winning 5 & 3

And Emily won again smile

the addict · Tennis legend

6 points for qualifying, which will help reverse the 42 place drop in her ranking after 9 points dropped off in the current rankings.

9vicman · Satellite level

MrTSymonds wrote:
You're right. I meant Birmingham. If he had have played Birmingham instead of Queens it would have counted.

Birmingham is a WTA event. Murray's other option the week of Queen's would have to have played a third Challenger in Ilkley.

MrTSymonds · Junior player

When are we expecting the Victoria Gastriz draw?
It seems odd that it's this late.

the addict · Tennis legend

MrTSymonds wrote:
When are we expecting the Victoria Gastriz draw?
It seems odd that it's this late.

They are still playing qualifying matches, some of whuch are scheduled for early evening. I wouldn't expect the drwa to be made until they are all complete, although some tournaments do make the draw earlier and publish it before the qualifiers are placed.

And welcome to the board !

-- Edited by the addict on Monday 17th of July 2023 12:20:19 PM

RJH1962 · Intermediate Club Player

I assume that in view of the heat they are playing some matches later than usual

Nix · Futures level

markymc1983 wrote:
SuperT wrote:
RJH1962 wrote:
Mervatron2 wrote:
Jodie is down for the MD. Wonder if she will play?
Any reason she shouldnt ? She would be a high seed and a good chance to keep moving forward with her ranking and automatic entry to the us open
Only that our girls make a habit of entering these sorts of tournaments and then dropping out at the last minute (like Heather above). I agree this would be a good one for her as you say, but personally I'll be surprised (but delighted) if she turns up.
Whereas you get the likes of Liam Broady who is already in the US competing in his next tournament. Our ladies dont seem to put as much into it then some of our men it has to be said.

Honestly, how many times does a comment have to be repeated before it becomes a trope. I just looked this up. Liam has played 22 tournaments this calendar year: the same as Katie Boulter and Heather Watson, one fewer than Jodie (who had an injury that took her out for a while), and far fewer than Harriet, who's played 28! Katie Swan has played fewer at 18 but I think is a lot more injury prone so has to be manage her body carefully.

Andy has played 22, Cam 23 and the saintly Dan 26. I don't think this lazy women thing needs to be continually repeated it's beginning to become irritating.

MrTSymonds · Junior player

The one thing that would help the women would be playing tournaments at their level. Katie Boulter is a bit of a bully this year with only one victory over anyone in the top 100.

Raise your rankings by winning the ITF tournaments and play in the WTA ones when you automatically qualify. Don't lose a week messing round in qualifying for 6 rankings points when you could get 80 for a QF.

I know its a bit short termist in thinking and you only improve by playing people better than you, but it has to be a brutal career losing more matches than you win.

theemptyvessel · Club Coach

Nix wrote:
markymc1983 wrote:
SuperT wrote:
RJH1962 wrote:
Mervatron2 wrote:
Jodie is down for the MD. Wonder if she will play?
Any reason she shouldnt ? She would be a high seed and a good chance to keep moving forward with her ranking and automatic entry to the us open
Only that our girls make a habit of entering these sorts of tournaments and then dropping out at the last minute (like Heather above). I agree this would be a good one for her as you say, but personally I'll be surprised (but delighted) if she turns up.
Whereas you get the likes of Liam Broady who is already in the US competing in his next tournament. Our ladies dont seem to put as much into it then some of our men it has to be said.
Honestly, how many times does a comment have to be repeated before it becomes a trope. I just looked this up. Liam has played 22 tournaments this calendar year: the same as Katie Boulter and Heather Watson, one fewer than Jodie (who had an injury that took her out for a while), and far fewer than Harriet, who's played 28! Katie Swan has played fewer at 18 but I think is a lot more injury prone so has to be manage her body carefully.

Andy has played 22, Cam 23 and the saintly Dan 26. I don't think this lazy women thing needs to be continually repeated it's beginning to become irritating.

To be fair to Liam he has also missed time this year with injury so would have played more than 22 events otherwise but the point stands, the lazy women thing is very much a myth perpetuated by the ill informed of which Dan is a leading member. The bigger issue is and always has been, how poor our players are at picking events and the seeming lack of a strategy when it comes to targeting weaker fields where they can pick up points when multiple events are available.

Nix · Futures level

theemptyvessel wrote:
Nix wrote:
markymc1983 wrote:
SuperT wrote:
RJH1962 wrote:
Mervatron2 wrote:
Jodie is down for the MD. Wonder if she will play?
Any reason she shouldnt ? She would be a high seed and a good chance to keep moving forward with her ranking and automatic entry to the us open
Only that our girls make a habit of entering these sorts of tournaments and then dropping out at the last minute (like Heather above). I agree this would be a good one for her as you say, but personally I'll be surprised (but delighted) if she turns up.
Whereas you get the likes of Liam Broady who is already in the US competing in his next tournament. Our ladies dont seem to put as much into it then some of our men it has to be said.
Honestly, how many times does a comment have to be repeated before it becomes a trope. I just looked this up. Liam has played 22 tournaments this calendar year: the same as Katie Boulter and Heather Watson, one fewer than Jodie (who had an injury that took her out for a while), and far fewer than Harriet, who's played 28! Katie Swan has played fewer at 18 but I think is a lot more injury prone so has to be manage her body carefully.

Andy has played 22, Cam 23 and the saintly Dan 26. I don't think this lazy women thing needs to be continually repeated it's beginning to become irritating.

To be fair to Liam he has also missed time this year with injury so would have played more than 22 events otherwise but the point stands, the lazy women thing is very much a myth perpetuated by the ill informed of which Dan is a leading member. The bigger issue is and always has been, how poor our players are at picking events and the seeming lack of a strategy when it comes to targeting weaker fields where they can pick up points when multiple events are available.

I certainly wasn't having a go at Liam in case that might be misunderstood. Just the lazy women myth. I agree with your other point, which is much more nuanced and interesting.

the addict · Tennis legend

Doubles

L16:- Alicia Barnett (GBR) / Olivia Nicholls (GBR) CR160 (79+81) [1] v Vasanti Shinde (IND) / Noelia Zeballos Melgar (BOL) CR765 (394+371)

L16:- Gina Feistel (POL) / Emilie Lindh (GBR) CR1238 (697+541) v Lucia Cortez Llorca (ESP) / Judith Perello Saavedra (ESP) CR1975 (483+1492)