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Wimbledon wildcards 2023 - women


I know I risk banging on the same drum as my last post, but the idea of wildcards is to allow 4 categories of players to play - firstly to give household names and crowd favourites special dispensation to play (such as Venus Williams), secondly those with major extenuating circumstances (Svitolina) thirdly the best home players who lack the ranking to make the tournament and 4thly the winners of Surbiton and Ilkley.

The 4th category of wildcard is to promote home tournaments - Ilkley and Surbiton, but I feel this 4th category really isn't necessary. All pre-Wimbledon tournaments have home interest, as once a year the British public gradually wakes up to the fact that it is tennis season again. Would those tournaments be blighted by not giving out wildcards, well maybe a little, but you have the definite situation that one very deserving Brit will therefore miss out this year, and on other years, deserving Brits have missed out because of this system. It feels to me that this situation puts the committee that decides in a bit of straitjacket, as otherwise, all 5 Brits would get the nod, and if Fran Jones had been fit, I think there would have been a very good case for giving her one too, and of course if Emma had been fit and needing a wildcard, she would have definitely got one too, which actually for me means there are 7 Brits who deserved wildcards this year, and from the point of view of purely wildcards, the organisers have a simpler decision given that Emma and Fran are not in the picture.

I would also like to add that when the Wimbledon draw comes out, if Wickmayer draws one of the least crowd pulling players (basically most players outside the top 32), then she will almost certainly be scheduled on one of the park bench courts, where probably no-one will make a special trip to see her ( other than her coach and parents possibly) and those around court will be entirely composed of those who have just wandered by and wanted somewhere to sit. I know this because my obscure tastes of the non-Brits I most like to follow (think Arantxa Rus, Denisa Chladkova and Yayuk Basuki) means I am often on these courts and am aware that I am the only one who has truly chosen to watch a match on this court, rather than haphazardly ending up there. Does any of this matter - well if kind of does; if the wildcards are mostly meant to boost spectator interest and help British tennis, it feels a bit sad when you see a wildcard playing in front of almost no spectators, and that the system has kind of gone wrong.

Another thing that has come up in these pages is the criteria for giving wildcards. Journalists often ask the question about how and why the wildcards have been given to certain players, and although my days of journalism are long gone, I can assure everyone on here, that all those connected to the decision making give the very simple answer that they award the wildcards to whoever they want to and whoever deserves it - that said, it has pretty definitely been agreed with the organisers of the Ilkley and Surbiton that their winners will get one - every year the winners of those tournaments do get the wildcards (if the winners of these tournaments' ranking means they need it), and Katie Swan's runners up speech emphasises that point.

If Venus has asked for one, she will certainly get it, and it looks as if Svitolina has been told verbally that she has one (otherwise she would have used her PR to enter), so it definitely means a touch choice. Katie B had a run to the 3rd round last year and Katie S qualified, so it would seem unlikely that they won't get one, Heather has been one of our best players for years and also did well last year, plus she normally does well on grass and Jodie has just missed the cut off - so I think the unlucky lady to miss out may be Harriet unless she at least makes the final at Nottingham, but if so, I feel it is the system that is flawed, rather than her being unlucky. If Harriet does miss out, it will be time to change the system. The only other possibility would be to make Svitolina do qualifying, but I just can't see it - if a phone call has happened, then any agreement will be honoured.



-- Edited by Andy Parker on Thursday 15th of June 2023 09:42:48 AM

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Chladkova. Wow there's a blast from the past. Big forehand. As someone who used to watch Sabine Appelmans and then basically have the choice of any seat around whatever obscure court she had been put on, I agree with everything you are saying here.

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Love the post, Andy - and the highly eclectic fave players

But just to give some other context:

In 2019, the wildcards were:

LADIES' SINGLES

Harriet DART (GBR)
Monica NICULESCU (ROU)
Katie SWAN (GBR)
Not used - Next direct acceptance
Not used - Next direct acceptance
Not used - Next direct acceptance
Not used - Next direct acceptance
Not used - Next direct acceptance

Basically, there were 5 wildcards not used. And this wasn't that unusual.

So I think the LTA thought that it seemed a shame, something more could be done to make the wildcards award more interesting.
Now maybe they should have given them to GB women ranked 350 or whatever, and some will think they should (I might be one of them, up to a point).
But they came up with the idea of bumping up Surbiton and Ilkley, and playing to win a wildcard.
Which seems sensible, to be fair. Very democratic. Gives a boost to the two events. Far better, at any rate, than leaving them all unused.

The problem is we've gone from having 5 unused spots in 2019, to now needing extra spots, in 2023.

The question is whether 2019 was more of a fluke year or is 2023? And, looking back, I think this year is more the oddity. 



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Thursday 15th of June 2023 09:55:06 AM

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Maybe there is an alternative way, in mens and womens, of giving wildcards from the ITF/Challenger warm up events?

Rather than the winner of each getting one, they could devise a points system (probably in line with ITF and Challenger points) so that the player who wins the most points over the 3 weeks who isnt in Wimbledon already, gets a single wild card. Mens aligns well with 3 consecutive Challengers, maybe womens would be Surbiton, Nottingham, Ilkley?

Not sure, but it reduces 3 down to 1 - and maybe they could be upfront and also say that the top BRIT , as well as top player from the same method gets a wildcard as a guarantee? They probably do that "softly" anyway in essence, but make it more upfront and it allows us to also gain interest by tracking the points progression over the 3 weeks?

The French, and the US?, do something similar for their slams, of course. The Race to Wimbledon or some such

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I've got a solution. Let's not give any of them WCs and make them qualify.

[Grabs my tin hat and runs for the hills]

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I'd be more sympathetic towards Wimby awarding Venus a WC, if the US Open hadn't been so partisan in cherry-picking all the US players from the alternates list for qualies, when there were far better international players to choose instead.

As it is I don't think Venus deserves a WC, as she has hardly played much.

Re. Swan not being available for the BJK Finals : There were two team GB competitions in the space of a month or so. Swan was pencilled in for the second, The United Cup in Sydney, and she proved to be the wrecking ball behind Team GB's success. (yes, I know Cam won his matches, but Swan was competing as the #2 woman in the squad and was very close to winning all three of her matches).

In Surbiton, Burrage was beaten by Miyazaki in three sets, who in turn was completely outplayed by Swan. I know Jodie was coming back from injury, though, and her GB#2 ranking was well-earned.

It's interesting, all 5 of the GB women have a case for inclusion in the MD, so I think they should be in it.



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Cheer on the Brits in Surbiton and Ilkley and failing that cheer for someone who will get into Wimbledon MD without a WC.


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Interesting debate here and of course, there are 5 of them who look to be under consideration for the Wild Cards (and all 5 have their own merits).

All I can say at this point is that if this competition for the limited spots is driving them on to play well and win WTA tour matches, then I am all for it!

Good luck to them all.



-- Edited by brittak on Thursday 15th of June 2023 02:39:04 PM

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harriet v Katie next could well decide one of them , I would say.

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Peter too wrote:

Cheer on the Brits in Surbiton and Ilkley and failing that cheer for someone who will get into Wimbledon MD without a WC.


 Think its a bit late re Surbiton



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Theres 4 non Brits outside of the main draw for Wimbledon in the quarter finals in the s-Hertogenbosch and 2 in Nottingham.

With Tim Van Rijthoven being awarded a wild card for winning s-Hertogenbosch last year any of these six winning the tournament would be equivalent.

Would be interesting to see what happens if someone just got to the final, as that should be considered better than winning a 100K.



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Theres 4 non Brits outside of the main draw for Wimbledon in the quarter finals in the s-Hertogenbosch and 2 in Nottingham.

With Tim Van Rijthoven being awarded a wild card for winning s-Hertogenbosch last year any of these six winning the tournament would be equivalent.

Would be interesting to see what happens if someone just got to the final, as that should be considered better than winning a 100K.


Oh gawd. It could get worse.

Though at least re if "someone ( a pesky ) just got to the final", especially in a pesky tournament, point taken re comparison with winning a 100K but surely this year the answer would just have to be - sorry, no room !



-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 15th of June 2023 07:37:27 PM

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Lambda wrote:

I've got a solution. Let's not give any of them WCs and make them qualify.

[Grabs my tin hat and runs for the hills]


 Agree!!



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I'd be more sympathetic towards Wimby awarding Venus a WC, if the US Open hadn't been so partisan in cherry-picking all the US players from the alternates list for qualies, when there were far better international players to choose instead.

As it is I don't think Venus deserves a WC, as she has hardly played much.

Re. Swan not being available for the BJK Finals : There were two team GB competitions in the space of a month or so. Swan was pencilled in for the second, The United Cup in Sydney, and she proved to be the wrecking ball behind Team GB's success. (yes, I know Cam won his matches, but Swan was competing as the #2 woman in the squad and was very close to winning all three of her matches).

In Surbiton, Burrage was beaten by Miyazaki in three sets, who in turn was completely outplayed by Swan. I know Jodie was coming back from injury, though, and her GB#2 ranking was well-earned.

It's interesting, all 5 of the GB women have a case for inclusion in the MD, so I think they should be in it.


 I agree with this except I don't agree with players who are practically retired getting WCs to prestigious events like GSs just because they had illustrious former careers, even if that means GB players like Andy not getting into overseas GSs. 



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Andy isn't practically retired though. There's a definite difference between Andy and Feli Lopez & Venus for example.

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