US College Signings and General College Chat 2023/24

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

RE: US College Signings and General College Chat 2023/24

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Wonderful

The huge 'leap of faith' they had in him is amazing and really ties in with the fact that JoMo (currently ATP 738, ex 531, and only 22) NEVER had a junior ranking, basically NEVER played junior tennis - according to the site, he played one event in Edinburgh and lost in qualis

And this is not someone from 15 years ago when juniors was less important - or someone from the USA, say, where domestic tennis is really strong and a lot of kids play less juniors

He truly was a 'nobody' in tennis terms when he was 17

So huge kudos to his family, and whoever, for encouraging him to try the college route

And even bigger kudos to Tennessee for seeing huge potential there, with no track record to back it up

And great kudos to JoMo himself too

Lambda · Challenger level

To round up the NCAAs, Miami's Alexa Noel is the women's National Champion. Sofia and Millie's conqueror did have match point deuce point on her serve but didn't take it. Whether it was the disappointment of not taking match point or the fatigue of her 9th singles match and over 18 hours of singles play in 9 days finally catching up with her, including this being her third 3 hour plus match in 5 days, or Noel figuring out how to play her, the 9th alternate could only win 3 of the next 12 games.

The men's National Champion is Alabama junior Filip Planinsek.

Lambda · Challenger level

Oh dear, doesn't sound like a good trip back for the NC State women's team.

https://x.com/CoachEarnshaw/status/1794230865930969157

Simon Earnshaw
@CoachEarnshaw
Great job @AmericanAirlns !! Just got to Dallas with @PackWTennis on the way back from NCAA's in Stillwater, flight out of Tulsa delayed, flight to RDU cancelled after we were here for an hour. No option to fly later today or tomorrow, no bags, car rentals all sold out. No bueno!
5:55 am · 25 May 2024

-- Edited by Lambda on Sunday 26th of May 2024 06:29:59 AM

Elegant Point · Satellite level

Enjoyed following the Brits at the Championships on here - the ITA site has always been a bit frustrating to try and follow

As always, my admiration to anyone who can combine studying for a degree or post grad course with being an athlete and especially when combined with being so far from home.

Lambda · Challenger level

-The year-end individual rankings have just been released.

As expected Johannus does not retain the 1 spot. Jack PJ climbs up from 13 to 6. We finish with 5 Brits in the top 11.

2. Johannus Monday (28-3)
6. Jack Pinnington-Jones (35-8)
8. Jake Fearnley (18-4)
9. Toby Samuel (21-6)
11. Oliver Tarvet (26-6)
51. Finn Murgett
78. Will Jansen
84. Lui Maxted
101. Jimmy Story

In doubles Jake & partner move up from 63 to 18.
Doubles
8. Johannus Monday & Diaz (19-7)
11. James Hopper & Montes (11-3)
16. Freddy Blaydes & Ratiu (13-7)
18. Jake Fearnley & Vives (6-0)
20. Finn Murgett & Dobai (11-11)
25. Toby Samuel & Hoole (9-6)
46. Oliver Okonkwo & Horve
66. Jimmy Story & Toby Samuel
67. Max Basing & Godsick

ETA: Win-loss added

-- Edited by Lambda on Wednesday 29th of May 2024 03:12:52 PM

Dannythomas · Lower Club Player

And here are the womens final rankings . End of an era for our top 3 ranked girls who have all enjoyed an excellent college career especially of course Millie. Now they move on and hopefully we seem them in the pro world with some help from the LTA where they may need the odd wild card here and there to give them momentum !
Otherwise not much movement in the rankings from May 2nd other than Sofia who had those great wins at individuals.

Singles:

2.(2) Amelia Rajecki ( NC State Senior) position on team #1 W37 L 9 U/f 2

21.(21) Victoria Allen ( Florida State Senior ) #1 24-9-4

25 (25) Angelica Blake ( Stanford Senior ) #1 14-6-5

68.(60) Grace Piper ( Southern California Junior ) #3-5 26-10-5

69.(116) Sophia Johnson ( Old Dominion Junior ) #1. 22-11-3

95. (89) Destinee Martins ( TCU Senior ) #1-3. 19-10-4

100.( N/R ) Kylie Bilchev ( Georgia Tech Junior ) #2 16-17-0

Doubles

15.(12) Rajecki/ Zampardo ( NC State)

16. (17) Allen / Bissett ( Florida State )

41.(39. ) Adeshina / Cabezas ( Tennessee)

51. (48) Spink / Cross (Arkansas)

53. (53) Staff/ Belle Mohr ( Vanderbilt)

54. (60) Piper / Fry (USC )

64 ( N/R ) Blake / Blokhina ( Stanford)

85. (65) Allen / Arkadianou ( Florida State )

Team

1. Texas A&M

2. Oklahoma State

3. Georgia

4. Stanford

5. Michigan

6. Pepperdine

7. UNC

8. Virginia

9. UCLA

10 Cal- Berkeley

11. Texas

12. Tennessee

13. Southern California

14. Florida

15. Ohio State

16. NC State

17. Auburn

18. Miami

19. Oklahoma

20. South Carolina

Lambda · Challenger level

By finishing top 10 Jo, Jack, Jake and Toby receive up to 8 main draw places (6 places if returning in the autumn) at Challenger 75 and 50 tournaments through the ATP/ITA Accelerator Programme. For finishing 11-20 Oliver has 6 qualifying places at the same levels. These can be taken from 1 July and those not returning to college in the autumn have until next year to use them. Returning players have 6 months to use them.

By finishing top 5 Millie also receives 5 main draw accelerator places that can be used at 1 tournament up to W75, 2 up to W50s and 2 up to W35s. These are available to her from July for 12 months.

pauliscot · Social player

Does anyone know if any of the top guys have completed college and are now going pro?

Dannythomas · Lower Club Player

Lambda wrote:
By finishing top 10 Jo, Jack, Jake and Toby receive up to 8 main draw places (6 places if returning in the autumn) at Challenger 75 and 50 tournaments through the ATP/ITA Accelerator Programme. For finishing 11-20 Oliver has 6 qualifying places at the same levels. These can be taken from 1 July and those not returning to college in the autumn have until next year to use them. Returning players have 6 months to use them.

By finishing top 5 Millie also receives 5 main draw accelerator places that can be used at 1 tournament up to W75, 2 up to W50s and 2 up to W35s. These are available to her from July for 12 months.

Yes Lambda but isnt it very disappointing that the ATP are giving so much more support to the male college players than the WTA give to the women ? a minimum of 20 players supported compared to 5 !! What happened to equality ?

Lambda · Challenger level

pauliscot wrote:

Does anyone know if any of the top guys have completed college and are now going pro?

Johannus, Jake and Toby were in their final year and are going pro. Jake and Toby are to be in the LTA mens and women's programme from July, as will Jack suggesting he isn't going back and will be going pro.

Lambda · Challenger level

Dannythomas wrote:

Lambda wrote:
By finishing top 10 Jo, Jack, Jake and Toby receive up to 8 main draw places (6 places if returning in the autumn) at Challenger 75 and 50 tournaments through the ATP/ITA Accelerator Programme. For finishing 11-20 Oliver has 6 qualifying places at the same levels. These can be taken from 1 July and those not returning to college in the autumn have until next year to use them. Returning players have 6 months to use them.

By finishing top 5 Millie also receives 5 main draw accelerator places that can be used at 1 tournament up to W75, 2 up to W50s and 2 up to W35s. These are available to her from July for 12 months.
Yes Lambda but isnt it very disappointing that the ATP are giving so much more support to the male college players than the WTA give to the women ? a minimum of 20 players supported compared to 5 !! What happened to equality ?

Yes. I think I expressed my disappointment of how much worse the Womens offer was to the men at the time it was first announced.

pauliscot · Social player

Thanks Lambda will be very exciting to see how these 4 progress

-- Edited by pauliscot on Thursday 30th of May 2024 07:21:20 AM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Dannythomas wrote:
Lambda wrote:
By finishing top 10 Jo, Jack, Jake and Toby receive up to 8 main draw places (6 places if returning in the autumn) at Challenger 75 and 50 tournaments through the ATP/ITA Accelerator Programme. For finishing 11-20 Oliver has 6 qualifying places at the same levels. These can be taken from 1 July and those not returning to college in the autumn have until next year to use them. Returning players have 6 months to use them.

By finishing top 5 Millie also receives 5 main draw accelerator places that can be used at 1 tournament up to W75, 2 up to W50s and 2 up to W35s. These are available to her from July for 12 months.
Yes Lambda but isnt it very disappointing that the ATP are giving so much more support to the male college players than the WTA give to the women ? a minimum of 20 players supported compared to 5 !! What happened to equality ?

As I remember, the argument is that women at age 18 or so are far more able to compete on the main pro tour than men. There is far less physical development that takes place over the 18-21 years. Therefore, the ATP feel the men 'need/deserve/justify' the support they're gving to help their sport whereas the WTA don't think it's such a big deal for their sport.

I don't really know enough about this to have a strong opnion (and it would be interesting to know if the two bodies even talk to each other) but I've never felt that equality means treating everyone identically

Dannythomas · Lower Club Player

Coup Droit wrote:
Dannythomas wrote:
Lambda wrote:
By finishing top 10 Jo, Jack, Jake and Toby receive up to 8 main draw places (6 places if returning in the autumn) at Challenger 75 and 50 tournaments through the ATP/ITA Accelerator Programme. For finishing 11-20 Oliver has 6 qualifying places at the same levels. These can be taken from 1 July and those not returning to college in the autumn have until next year to use them. Returning players have 6 months to use them.

By finishing top 5 Millie also receives 5 main draw accelerator places that can be used at 1 tournament up to W75, 2 up to W50s and 2 up to W35s. These are available to her from July for 12 months.
Yes Lambda but isnt it very disappointing that the ATP are giving so much more support to the male college players than the WTA give to the women ? a minimum of 20 players supported compared to 5 !! What happened to equality ?
As I remember, the argument is that women at age 18 or so are far more able to compete on the main pro tour than men. There is far less physical development that takes place over the 18-21 years. Therefore, the ATP feel the men 'need/deserve/justify' the support they're gving to help their sport whereas the WTA don't think it's such a big deal for their sport.
I don't really know enough about this to have a strong opnion (and it would be interesting to know if the two bodies even talk to each other) but I've never felt that equality means treating everyone identically

I dont think it has anything to do with physical development. The fact is that college tennis is very demanding schedule wise and it Means that coming out of college large numbers of tennis players both men and women have the same practical issue of not having high enough rankings to get into ITF/ WTA / ATP events. The accelerator programme was introduced to make that transition easier. I dont see that gender affects that issue.