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Week 21 - French Open (Roland-Garros) - Paris, France (clay)


So Sakkari - 4th seed - is out too.

As well as the second seed

Emma's only 12th seed

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Usual WTA mayhem!

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All 5 top 10 players in the bottom half (Krejcikova 2nd, Sakkari 4th, Kontaveit 5th, Jabeur 6th, Muguruza 10th) are out by round 2 (4 of them in R1). Big opportunity for someone. Anisimova was the 2nd or 3rd fave for the title at a lot of places this morning, and her odds will likely come in further now that Sakkari has gone (which could have been her next opponent).

The 5 in the other half all remain for now, but of course, they've only played one round thus far.


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Wow, the decline is real with poor Ferro. I'm obviously chuffed with the result, but she only won 2 points in the second set and lost 28 of the last 30, and the match only lasted 54 minutes. She looks a shadow of the player who won 2 WTA titles and was quite renowned for being a scrapper.

I was fearing the whole Tsonga situation / atmosphere / environment might have been a factor in the match with this one following it on to Chatrier, but absolutely not.

Take it you found nothing CD? Doesn't look injury related either.

We're getting a lesson in Spanish on Eurosport 1 now with Paula and Alex Corretja biggrin


 Sorry, Ace - nothing I can see on Fiona - and, yes, wasn't she abysmal? :::(((

I did read a little more about Diane Parry who, as you say, is rather surprisingly in the top 100.

The FFT have given her a South American coach and he decided to take her over there last autumn, and really ground her in clay, and that's where she won 160 points, winning some 125k event, or something - you'll probably know better than me. And made the semis in something too. In short, nearly all her points come from that swing as she's barely won a match since. Although that sounds a bit mean, as she's only 19, but....


Thanks CD, didn't realise she had an SA coach, so that Autumn schedule would make sense. I guess if most of your success is at the ITF or 125K level then they will be going under the radar with there being no TV, and it's pretty much the ITF site or betting streams if you want to follow it.

 



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indiana wrote:

Yes hopefully got / getting over the back issue and now able to practise and acclimatise on grass.

Of course we hoped for better here but in the big picture no great drama and more experience gained 

Onward ...

In my ongoing looking much more to where she is in a year or two, having become a regular tour player, rather than be that much bothered about relatively minor injuries and / or poorer results ( or in the meantime view too much against her so totally unexpected  US Open title ), my one real wish is that she does sort out a more permanent coaching arrangement sooner rather than later ( and her family / other team behind her perhaps stop a*sing about and trying to be too clever about it ).


 Agree with just about all of this. 

I do think though that the manner of some of her losses are really poor. Even today she just didn't seem to be really competing. Maybe the back is still an issue? Hindsight is a wonderful thing but right now the decision not to try and work more with Richardson looks to be a bad one. Maybe he wasn't interested.

Problem for me is she has no killer shot whatsoever right now. Her serve wasn't getting many cheap points and her ground shots just lack any real power on slower surfaces.

Yes she's inexperienced but that argument will only  wash for so long. If I was from another planet and someone told me she was ranked somewhere between 100 and 150 I'd say that wouldn't be a surprise based on her current form and play. 

Today's result was yet another disappointing one but I don't think any of us on here would say it was surprising.

Maybe the grass season will be better but I wouldn't be staking much money on it right now.



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She's only currently down for one grass court ranking event.

Where would she be ranked if all her points up to and including the US Open dropped off?



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She's only currently down for one grass court ranking event.

Where would she be ranked if all her points up to and including the US Open dropped off?


 Well, Emma will be on 2975 ranking points after the French Open. 2434 of these counting points were earned up to and including the US Open last year.

If you purely took these points off her total and left everyone else's points the same she'd be down to about a 120 ranking ( probably look higher after Wimbledon with no-one due to earn points there this year so overall points will drop ).

Yes her points are very loaded but that would seem a bit of an extreme comparison to just take all these points off  unreplaced as against the others' points as they stand??

Of much more interest I'd say is that OER is showing Emma as live 63 based on all players' points earned this year. She has earned 438 points in 2022 so far and I imagine ( well sure hope so! ) lots more to come, particularly on North American hard courts.



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I wanted to know what the extreme scenario was so I would then know where she is at.

I have no idea where to find ranking breakdowns so thank you for the information.

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Ace Ventura wrote:
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Ace Ventura wrote:

Wow, the decline is real with poor Ferro. I'm obviously chuffed with the result, but she only won 2 points in the second set and lost 28 of the last 30, and the match only lasted 54 minutes. She looks a shadow of the player who won 2 WTA titles and was quite renowned for being a scrapper.

I was fearing the whole Tsonga situation / atmosphere / environment might have been a factor in the match with this one following it on to Chatrier, but absolutely not.

Take it you found nothing CD? Doesn't look injury related either.

We're getting a lesson in Spanish on Eurosport 1 now with Paula and Alex Corretja biggrin


 Sorry, Ace - nothing I can see on Fiona - and, yes, wasn't she abysmal? :::(((

I did read a little more about Diane Parry who, as you say, is rather surprisingly in the top 100.

The FFT have given her a South American coach and he decided to take her over there last autumn, and really ground her in clay, and that's where she won 160 points, winning some 125k event, or something - you'll probably know better than me. And made the semis in something too. In short, nearly all her points come from that swing as she's barely won a match since. Although that sounds a bit mean, as she's only 19, but....


Thanks CD, didn't realise she had an SA coach, so that Autumn schedule would make sense. I guess if most of your success is at the ITF or 125K level then they will be going under the radar with there being no TV, and it's pretty much the ITF site or betting streams if you want to follow it.

 


 I think I asked this once before when Diane Parry was lower ranked. For a French player she has an English name. What is her family background? 



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What will the WTA do about Wimbledon's zero points over the coming 12 months as regards the rankings of top players? I assume they will allow players to include the points from an alternative event to make up their tally of 16 events. Have they made any statement to that effect?



-- Edited by Peter too on Wednesday 25th of May 2022 11:01:04 PM

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C'mon, Léolia !

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The good news is that there is no news of an injury. Yet.


 No injury confirmed:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61583515



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What a wonderfully enjoyable hour of tennis

Brilliant display from Léolia (and Pliskova not looking too happy on clay, as normal)

The dropshots, and touch, and variation, were a delight

6-2 6-2

After winning the first round, she said, "you don't know what this means to me financially, as well as emotionally, after all I've been through. I've had to budget to the nearest euro for my ITF trips, barely able to afford to go, my bank manager's patience has been worn extremely thin - but he's going to be SO happy now"

I guess a third-round cheque (and counting) will be even better



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Coup Droit wrote:

What a wonderfully enjoyable hour of tennis

Brilliant display from Léolia (and Pliskova not looking too happy on clay, as normal)

The dropshots, and touch, and variation, were a delight

6-2 6-2

After winning the first round, she said, "you don't know what this means to me financially, as well as emotionally, after all I've been through. I've had to budget to the nearest euro for my ITF trips, barely able to afford to go, my bank manager's patience has been worn extremely thin - but he's going to be SO happy now"

I guess a third-round cheque (and counting) will be even better


 I watched some of that too and totally agree.  I really enjoyed the variety and skill of her game.  Thanks for the tip CD.  



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Coup Droit wrote:

What a wonderfully enjoyable hour of tennis

Brilliant display from Léolia (and Pliskova not looking too happy on clay, as normal)

The dropshots, and touch, and variation, were a delight

6-2 6-2

After winning the first round, she said, "you don't know what this means to me financially, as well as emotionally, after all I've been through. I've had to budget to the nearest euro for my ITF trips, barely able to afford to go, my bank manager's patience has been worn extremely thin - but he's going to be SO happy now"

I guess a third-round cheque (and counting) will be even better


 What a wonderful win for Leolia. Thanks CD for telling us about her story . I will be cheering her on and really hope she can win her next match .



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