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Coup Droit


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paulisi wrote:
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I'm 100% with you, Tennisdad. She's doing very well. My point is that she's not head and shoulder above the rest just because she happened to have one excellent tournament and beat a qualifier here. My comment was more about the rest, not about Talia.

 Sorry CD, but Talia has stepped up big time.

This is her 4th Senior event:

Loughborough - came through qualifying. But lost in Rd 1 to Gimbrere

Birmingham - lost to Sonay in the final and beat Zaja, Palicova, Owen and Kempen en route

Nottingham - injury, but gave the winner I real fright

This week - into Rd 2 and potential to go quite deep.

 

Some people find it easy to step up, some struggle to adapt. It might be a mental think. Who knows.

It's great to see juniors stepping up and transitioning well.

I'm certain that Mimi, Isabelle,Ella, Hep and possibly Ranah will all have WTA  rankings by the end of the summer.

 

 Honestly, I'm not saying she hasn't done well - she has !!!

Although three out of four main draw appearances were thanks to wildcards.

This does back up the point of others that if you are a favoured one, your chances of stepping up are SO much higher. After all, who knows what some of the other girls could have done with three 25k Main Draw places? 

Again, no criticism of Talia, though. She has a lovely fluid and technically good game - it's good to watch and, as you say, mentally she seems very happy out there, which is crucial. 

I'm not so fussed about WTA rankings for the rest - though it would be great if you're proved right and they're all ranked soon, of course - rather like Sonay, I feel it's the level of the game that matters most at this age.



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Not sure what the drams was on JasmineS court but her opponent was not prepared to play at 6-0 15-15 10 minute discussion ensued! 



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Coup Droit wrote:

This does back up the point of others that if you are a favoured one, your chances of stepping up are SO much higher. After all, who knows what some of the other girls could have done with three 25k Main Draw places? 

 

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These other girls were unable to beat the players in the qualifying. Several of them are having difficulties qualifying in 15K tournaments and others haven't played for a while. Talia has shown promise and this is why she is a 'favoured one'.



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Tennisdad_101 wrote:

Not sure what the drams was on JasmineS court but her opponent was not prepared to play at 6-0 15-15 10 minute discussion ensued! 

 I don't know either but Jasmine takes the second set 7-5. 



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Great comeback win for Jasmine

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A pretty tense third set

It's very windy there. Jasmine was so far up the court to return serve she was practically standing in the sevice box

Didn't always work but showed good intent

Overall, she deserved that third set (don't know about the rest)

Well done to her

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R1: NEILSON, GATENBY, Talia (GBR) WC 826 def FUNG, Stacey (CAN) Q 601 6-3 6-3
R1: SILVA, Eden (GBR) 451def SALDEN, Lara (BEL) (7) 364 6-3 6-3
R1: STOIBER, Ranah Aqua (GBR) WC UNR lost to GARLAND, Joanna (TPE) 441 4-6 7-6(6) 3-6
R1: CONWAY, Jasmine (GBR) WC 858 def KOZAKI, Funa (JPN) Q 709 0-6 7-5 6-3
R1: LACY, Isabelle (GBR) WC UNR lost to ROBBE, Alice (FRA) 398 4-6 1-6

R2: SILVA, Eden (GBR) 451(CH=408 2021) v NEILSON, GATENBY, Talia (GBR) WC 826 =CH {16yo JCH=158}
R2: CONWAY, Jasmine (GBR) WC 858 =CH {17yo JCH=80} v SEBOV, Katherine (CAN) (6) 330 (CH=192 2019)


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R1: NEILSON, GATENBY, Talia (GBR) WC 826 def FUNG, Stacey (CAN) Q 601 6-3 6-3
R1: SILVA, Eden (GBR) 451def SALDEN, Lara (BEL) (7) 364 6-3 6-3
R1: STOIBER, Ranah Aqua (GBR) WC UNR lost to GARLAND, Joanna (TPE) 441 4-6 7-6(6) 3-6
R1: CONWAY, Jasmine (GBR) WC 858 def KOZAKI, Funa (JPN) Q 709 0-6 7-5 6-3
R1: LACY, Isabelle (GBR) WC UNR lost to ROBBE, Alice (FRA) 398 4-6 1-6

R2: SILVA, Eden (GBR) 451(CH=408 2021) v NEILSON, GATENBY, Talia (GBR) WC 826 =CH {16yo JCH=158}
R2: CONWAY, Jasmine (GBR) WC 858 =CH {17yo JCH=80} v SEBOV, Katherine (CAN) (6) 330 (CH=192 2019)

 Five seeds lost in first round. Only 3, 5 and 6 remain.



-- Edited by sliced backhand on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 02:35:10 PM

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Yes including Barthel who lost from a bagel up...

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Last of the first round doubles matches

L16:- Lauryn John-Baptiste (GBR) / Alice Robbe (FRA) CR1482 (971+511) def Lara Bakhaya (GBR) / Francesca Davis (GBR) UNR (UNR+UNR) 6-0 6-0

QF:- Mana Kawamura (JPN) / Funa Kozaki (JPN) CR556 (317+239) [4] v Lauryn John-Baptiste (GBR) / Alice Robbe (FRA) CR1482 (971+511)

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Barthel wasn't actually a seed. Interestingly though, only Eden's opponent Salden (7) was a betting favourite in the respective R1 matches from the 5 seeds who did crash out, and even Eden was only a 2.10 or 11/10 narrow underdog. I guess it does kind of reflect the state of the rankings with some still having points from 2019 on their records. It does however open it up on paper, and a great opportunity many.

Also great to see both Brit's progress today, and fab that we will have a guaranteed QFist.

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Ace Ventura wrote:

Barthel wasn't actually a seed. Interestingly though, only Eden's opponent Salden (7) was a betting favourite in the respective R1 matches from the 5 seeds who did crash out, and even Eden was only a 2.10 or 11/10 narrow underdog. I guess it does kind of reflect the state of the rankings with some still having points from 2019 on their records. It does however open it up on paper, and a great opportunity many.

Also great to see both Brit's progress today, and fab that we will have a guaranteed QFist.

 Also shows how knowledgeable the odds makers are!



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Great that Eden now plays Talia and we have guaranteed GB interest for a little longer.

Eden will have to play well and not go AWOL as she often does.

You'd be tempted to go for Talia....

 

 Well, I went to put my 10p on Talia, as above - but found out she was the clear favourite : 1.57 v 2.25  hmm

So that's not happening - sliced backhand says it shows how knowledgeable the bookies are - maybe - but the bookies don't really make the odds, the flows of money make the odds for them, so I guess Talia's got all the backing. And they may well be right - Eden could certainly blow herself up......

But Eden might be the one for me now (and anyway I had 50p on Talia today at 2.5 so maybe time for a change)  

 

 



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Jasmine had a chance for 3-1 as she was 40-0 on her opponent's serve but was unable to take it.

2-2

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Jasmine lost 4 and 2. It is looking very windy in Nottingham today!



-- Edited by jb288 on Thursday 21st of April 2022 10:59:42 AM

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