Week 4 - ITF W60 - Andrezieux-Boutheon, France Hard

Peter too · Tennis legend

Week 4 - ITF W60 - Andrezieux-Boutheon, France Hard

the addict · Tennis legend

I knew Liv and Lissey were going to be there, but Liv was way down the acceptance list at 18th alternate, and Lissey actually withdrew on 11th January. Must have been a lot of no-shows, although the main draw is still going to be pretty strong

Peter too · Tennis legend

There have been four PFLWQD and four PFLWMDs in the last two days. There were also several other late withdrawals a day or two earlier.

Lambda · Challenger level

There was a change to the withdrawal process starting last week when these PFs started appearing. Before last week to withdraw after the freeze deadline players had to email or fax a withdrawal form, since last week they now have to do it online through their IPIN account. I'm pretty sure this is not a coincidence and these new initialisms just mean that they have withdrawn after the freeze deadline. Its also why the acceptance lists can now update after the freeze deadline with who has withdrawn.

PaulM · Tennis legend

Am I right in thinking that the post freeze withdrawal fine doesn't apply if you are pulling out because you are still competing in another event and not Special Exempt eligible?

the addict · Tennis legend

PaulM wrote:
Am I right in thinking that the post freeze withdrawal fine doesn't apply if you are pulling out because you are still competing in another event and not Special Exempt eligible?

I think you are right - but the rule appears to only cover withdrawals from qualifying. Not certain what happens to those from the main draw - I assume they would get fined affter their third offence.

brittak · Satellite level

I posted this earlier in the Loughborough thread in case it helps - seems to apply to all ITF events.

I think PF does mean Penalty Free as according to the ITF regs 2022, players are allowed 3 penalty free withdrawals during the year. This rule may have been in place before but perhaps is now just being made more transparent.

Covered in the attached around pages 81 onwards.

www.itftennis.com/media/7286/2022-itf-world-tennis-tour-regulations.pdf

Lambda · Challenger level

brittak wrote:

I posted this earlier in the Loughborough thread in case it helps - seems to apply to all ITF events.

I think PF does mean Penalty Free as according to the ITF regs 2022, players are allowed 3 penalty free withdrawals during the year. This rule may have been in place before but perhaps is now just being made more transparent.

Covered in the attached around pages 81 onwards.

www.itftennis.com/media/7286/2022-itf-world-tennis-tour-regulations.pdf

If it meant penalty free for the first 3 withdrawals then, as it is the beginning of the year, that would apply to all players that withdrew from the main draw or qualifying after the withdrawal deadline so isn't referring to that.

brittak · Satellite level

Lambda wrote:
brittak wrote:

I posted this earlier in the Loughborough thread in case it helps - seems to apply to all ITF events.

I think PF does mean Penalty Free as according to the ITF regs 2022, players are allowed 3 penalty free withdrawals during the year. This rule may have been in place before but perhaps is now just being made more transparent.

Covered in the attached around pages 81 onwards.

www.itftennis.com/media/7286/2022-itf-world-tennis-tour-regulations.pdf

If it meant penalty free for the first 3 withdrawals then, as it is the beginning of the year, that would apply to all players that withdrew from the main draw or qualifying after the withdrawal deadline so isn't referring to that.

I am sure that whatever the rules are will be covered in this document somewhere.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Lissey was 6-4 up in the MTB

But ended up losing ::((

Peter too · Tennis legend

Q1: NICHOLLS, Olivia (GBR) UNR (CH=943 2017) lost to VILLET, Marie (FRA) 15 1041 =CH 6-4 2-6 [5-10]
Q1: BARNETT, Alicia (GBR) 7 614 lost to NICAULT, Ines (FRA) 1270 4-6 7-6(3) [8-10]

R1: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) 7 155 (CH=82 2019) v DJOUBRI, Salma (FRA) WC 467 (CH=433 2021)

-- Edited by Peter too on Tuesday 25th of January 2022 12:52:11 AM

the addict · Tennis legend

Five byes in a W60 !

QF:- Erika Andreeva (RUS) / Berfu Cengiz (TUR) CR946 (578+368) v Alicia Barnett (GBR) / Olivia Nicholls (GBR) CR354 (171+183) [2]

the addict · Tennis legend

Lambda wrote:
There was a change to the withdrawal process starting last week when these PFs started appearing. Before last week to withdraw after the freeze deadline players had to email or fax a withdrawal form, since last week they now have to do it online through their IPIN account. I'm pretty sure this is not a coincidence and these new initialisms just mean that they have withdrawn after the freeze deadline. Its also why the acceptance lists can now update after the freeze deadline with who has withdrawn.

Lambda, you are correct on all points - I checked with a player.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Peter too wrote:
Q1: NICHOLLS, Olivia (GBR) UNR (CH=943 2017) lost to VILLET, Marie (FRA) 15 1041 =CH 6-4 2-6 [5-10]
Q1: BARNETT, Alicia (GBR) 7 614 lost to NICAULT, Ines (FRA) 1270 4-6 7-6(3) [8-10]

R1: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) 7 v DJOUBRI, Salma (FRA) WC 467 (CH=433 2021)

Salma is 19 and perfectly fairly ranked.

In two, Katie - allez, no messin.....

PaulM · Tennis legend

Diabolical for the most part.

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