Out of interest , is she a Beth or is it Sarah Beth - in terms of how people generally call her? I have no idea so genuinely interested !

And suspect I asked this 2 years ago and forgot the answer

JonH comes home wrote:

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Out of interest , is she a Beth or is it Sarah Beth - in terms of how people generally call her? I have no idea so genuinely interested !

And suspect I asked this 2 years ago and forgot the answer

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 Friends (i.e. Katy, say) always refer to her as Beth.

She used to be known as Askew too but changed her name, I believe, to Grey (her mother's name) when her parents got divorced. 

Cool, Beth it is !

Bagel wrote:

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Jaggy1876 wrote:

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Opted not to play doubles and looks fitter and stronger as well. Both factors in this I believe. You reap what you sow and get back what you put in I always believe so lets get behind her and hope she can push on up the rankings. No reason why not.

I often wonder if the likes of Luke Bambridge or Jonny OMara have any regrets in giving up. Its never too late guys.

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 More anti-doubles tosh from this opinionated poster. Beth is doing well recently but still has zero chance of making Top 150 as a singles player. She is an excellent doubles player who, with a regular partner, could make Top 50 and a career in Grand Slam events as a doubles specialist. Such a pity that the poster doesn't understand that singles and doubles are different strands of the same sport. One is NOT inferior to the other.

-- Edited by Bagel on Thursday 2nd of December 2021 10:27:45 PM

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Now the tournament is over and success has been achieved here lets unpick some of this.

Every poster is opinionated by definition a very strange comment to make. Having an opinion is why there is a forum. They very definition of the words opinion and forum highlight this.

Zero chance of making top 150? Who are you to say that. Its never too late at this stage in someones career. On the evidence of this week ZERO is certainly not the case, there is always the chance. A noticeable fitter, hungrier player putting in the graft we have here. I see on another thread this week another well known poster wrote off Alicia Barnett with similar comments well intended may they have been. 

Doubles and Singles have equal measure? Ah yes that will be why Djokovic, Nadal, Medvedev play.oh they dont. If all players played both then Im almost certain the singles rankings would be fairly close to that of doubles. Sure there would be exceptions here and there but come on now. 

Just because you dont like or agree with someones opinion doesnt make it tosh. Especially when you have no facts or evidence to back it up save for resorting to angry retorts. People may not like what I say but its always done without insult and with evidence or certainly opinion that is reasoned to back up. Thats what healthy discussion is all about.

 

 

Peter too wrote:

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First Emma and now Sarah Beth. British girls are making a habit of qualifying and then going on to win the title. Long may it continue. 

 

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Very different levels, of course, but both won their titles from qualifying without dropping a set throughout, and while Emma won a slam before winning a WTA, Beth has just won a W25 without ever having won a W15

P.S. I agree with Jaggy's points about forums, opinions and singles being more important than doubles (even if they are the same sport) - that's not to denigrate doubles but all the top players know that singles is a bigger deal. I don't know if any of you saw the video about France's 1991 Davis Cup triumph that was tweeted out by the FFT earlier this week, which included recent interviews with Forget and Leconte (who both upset Sampras and won the doubles together too) but one of them said that he thought that as two singles specialists, they had the advantage in the doubles over the US's specialist doubles team because singles players are much more used to playing in much more high pressure situations (i.e. that while doubles specialists might prevail in some matches against singles specialists, that wouldn't be the case in a situation as pressured as the DC final), and that rung true to me. Took me back to the days of proper Davis Cup finals too ...

Anyway, I'm really happy for Beth, who looks fitter than I've ever seen her, and long may she continue to hit new heights in both singles and doubles 

indiana wrote:

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I was trying to stay out of this doubles vs singles discussion given I have previously felt I have been wasting my time, as to be taken much notice of, and it's time I can never get back.

Much of what Jaggy says is very true. The problem I have is that he does so regularly "denigrate" doubles and specialist doubles players ( eg. "not tennis" ) rather than just say make the fair points that singles IS superior to doubles and that is what almost all doubles players aim for first and admit it themselves.

It is however perfectly understandable that such as Ken Skupski and Luke Bambridge and many others have chosen to permanently switch to doubles to increase their own playing satisfaction and earnings, as they have both explained in the past. To me that surely makes so much more sense rather than stick with singles for anyone else's preferences.

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Ah, I was only agreeing with the point in his most recent post about singles being more important than doubles, not going any further down that road than that.