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RE: Week 47 - ITF W25 - Milovice, Czech Rep. Hard


RJH1962 wrote:
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Jodie implode - never ! 

So much potential, and throwing it all away - again. Another good chance to go deep (and possibly win the tournament) and effectively a wasted trip. Something needs to change, and quickly.


 Think next year is massive for her. If she doesnt get this under control it could be too late. Surely other people at the LTA can see this as well?


 The strange thing is she seems pretty positive on social media, you'd never know her game collapses with alarming speed and regularity.



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JonH comes home wrote:
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Coup Droit wrote:
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Jodie was very comfortable at 6-2 5-3 30-0* but has had a bit if an implosion. Couple of doubles serving for it and she's broken to 15.

Bates is with her this week ...

5-5*


 Your third sentence says it all....... he transmits nervousness and stress in every direction.....it's like having your dad watching, sucking his teeth in every time you make a mistake



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 24th of November 2021 03:38:23 PM


 I thought that at Wimbledon when he was watching Katie Boulter. It's like he had a cloud over his head and I felt I was encouraging her more than him! It's weird how he wields so much control. Someone must rate him???? 


 His wiki profile ends by saying 

 

He is also a motivational speaker on team building.


OMG seriously? There was obvs some issue with his seat in the match I saw and he'd kicked off about it (someone presumably didn't know who he was?) so he had at least three officials coming to apologise to him but  rather than dealing with it after the match (his player was playing at the time in an important match for her come back after long term injury) he had a long conversation with each of them, complaining about his treatment. It just seemed to me that he was getting his priorities wrong and should have been entirely focused on Katie. 



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So when your business says that for the next team away day theyve got a special speaker along to provide motivation etc , be very careful to check your options on attending the event or having something more pressing to focus on!

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Nix wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Nix wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
PaulM wrote:

Jodie was very comfortable at 6-2 5-3 30-0* but has had a bit if an implosion. Couple of doubles serving for it and she's broken to 15.

Bates is with her this week ...

5-5*


 Your third sentence says it all....... he transmits nervousness and stress in every direction.....it's like having your dad watching, sucking his teeth in every time you make a mistake



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 24th of November 2021 03:38:23 PM


 I thought that at Wimbledon when he was watching Katie Boulter. It's like he had a cloud over his head and I felt I was encouraging her more than him! It's weird how he wields so much control. Someone must rate him???? 


 His wiki profile ends by saying 

 

He is also a motivational speaker on team building.


OMG seriously? There was obvs some issue with his seat in the match I saw and he'd kicked off about it (someone presumably didn't know who he was?) so he had at least three officials coming to apologise to him but  rather than dealing with it after the match (his player was playing at the time in an important match for her come back after long term injury) he had a long conversation with each of them, complaining about his treatment. It just seemed to me that he was getting his priorities wrong and should have been entirely focused on Katie. 


 I always find cabin crew gossip sites are good for finding out who has a high opinion of themselves.  Annabel Croft is one who likes to throw about the 'Do you know who I am' line. I might go off and see if he ihas been mentioned



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emmsie69 wrote:
Nix wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Nix wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
PaulM wrote:

Jodie was very comfortable at 6-2 5-3 30-0* but has had a bit if an implosion. Couple of doubles serving for it and she's broken to 15.

Bates is with her this week ...

5-5*


 Your third sentence says it all....... he transmits nervousness and stress in every direction.....it's like having your dad watching, sucking his teeth in every time you make a mistake



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 24th of November 2021 03:38:23 PM


 I thought that at Wimbledon when he was watching Katie Boulter. It's like he had a cloud over his head and I felt I was encouraging her more than him! It's weird how he wields so much control. Someone must rate him???? 


 His wiki profile ends by saying 

 

He is also a motivational speaker on team building.


OMG seriously? There was obvs some issue with his seat in the match I saw and he'd kicked off about it (someone presumably didn't know who he was?) so he had at least three officials coming to apologise to him but  rather than dealing with it after the match (his player was playing at the time in an important match for her come back after long term injury) he had a long conversation with each of them, complaining about his treatment. It just seemed to me that he was getting his priorities wrong and should have been entirely focused on Katie. 


 I always find cabin crew gossip sites are good for finding out who has a high opinion of themselves.  Annabel Croft is one who likes to throw about the 'Do you know who I am' line. I might go off and see if he ihas been mentioned


 Do you work in the airline industry Emmsie? I used to work at BA many, many years ago (not cabin/air crew, in the procurement function) and had lots of interesting journeys over to LAX with work where I could spill lots of gossip - usually when drunk or mischievious!



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No, I'm on the railway currently but I'm on a vicious gossip site that often links to CC gossip about celebrities (not that I'd put Bates in that category but he does)

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emmsie69 wrote:

No, I'm on the railway currently but I'm on a vicious gossip site that often links to CC gossip about celebrities (not that I'd put Bates in that category but he does)


 Haha. I worked at British rail many, many, many years ago before my BA days ! When there was a British Rail!



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JonH comes home wrote:
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No, I'm on the railway currently but I'm on a vicious gossip site that often links to CC gossip about celebrities (not that I'd put Bates in that category but he does)


 Haha. I worked at British rail many, many, many years ago before my BA days ! When there was a British Rail!


 The BR mentality is still rampant if not the company



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Nix wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Nix wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
PaulM wrote:

Jodie was very comfortable at 6-2 5-3 30-0* but has had a bit if an implosion. Couple of doubles serving for it and she's broken to 15.

Bates is with her this week ...

5-5*


 Your third sentence says it all....... he transmits nervousness and stress in every direction.....it's like having your dad watching, sucking his teeth in every time you make a mistake



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 24th of November 2021 03:38:23 PM


 I thought that at Wimbledon when he was watching Katie Boulter. It's like he had a cloud over his head and I felt I was encouraging her more than him! It's weird how he wields so much control. Someone must rate him???? 


 His wiki profile ends by saying 

 

He is also a motivational speaker on team building.


OMG seriously? There was obvs some issue with his seat in the match I saw and he'd kicked off about it (someone presumably didn't know who he was?) so he had at least three officials coming to apologise to him but  rather than dealing with it after the match (his player was playing at the time in an important match for her come back after long term injury) he had a long conversation with each of them, complaining about his treatment. It just seemed to me that he was getting his priorities wrong and should have been entirely focused on Katie. 


 That is SO illuminating, Nix.

And, yes, exactly like my firsthand experiences. Just one example: 

Bates was sitting by a court, watching Katie at Wimbly qualis. There's ten metres of fence, with no one there but his chair (and Katie's mum, who seems enthralled by Jeremy.... the man wields a strange power, as you say), and a couple of people standing nearby, including me. 

Jeremy is there, doing nothing, saying nothing, apart from grimacing occasionally, and looking sour. 

A young woman comes along with a small computer gizmo and needs to attach it to the fence - it's going to track something or other - and it needs to attached (to get the angle) at pretty much exactly where Jeremy is sitting. And she explains this very politely to Bates and basically he'll have to move a tiny bit - along the ten metres of completely unoccupied fence. 

Lord, he kicked off. Not shouting, obviously, but a whole load of self-important 'I am the blah-blah at the LTA, I need to have direct eye contact with my player.......'. I swear that one metre along it was JUST the same - same court, same eye contact, same him doing sweet FA anyway. He finally inched along a tiny bit, deliberately making it difficult for computer girl, but - Lord - it was done through gritted teeth and SO much bad grace.  

And, yes, Katie lost. 



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All this fits with the impression I got of seeing him at Chiswick a couple of times - especially the grimacing and looking sour. Enough to put any player off.

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Wasnt he Davis Cup captain for a while? Not sure who our team was then, was it Tim and Greg days?

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R2: GREY, Sarah Beth (GBR) Q 403 =CH LOST TO ASTAKHOVA, Darya (RUS) 8 291 (CH=288 2021) 3-6 2-6

She had chances for breaks, but could only take two of them. Good effort again.

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JonH comes home wrote:

Wasnt he Davis Cup captain for a while? Not sure who our team was then, was it Tim and Greg days?


 Wikipedia tells us that Bates was Davis Cup captain from January 2004 to July 2006. He resigned  when we lost the tie  to Israel . He was a bit unlucky there because Andy Murray was injured in the doubles. His win loss as captain was won 2 ties lost 4. But he kept his job within the LTA at that time. Certainly his time within the LTA goes back a long time.



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Yep, in with the bricks. And seems likely to stay there unless it all comes crumbling down.



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Ali+ lead Beth+ 6-4 *3-2 in their doubles QF.

A single break in the first set and two breaks to one so far in the second set.

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