Week 47 - ITF W15 - Monastir, Tunisia Hard

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

RE: Week 47 - ITF W15 - Monastir, Tunisia Hard

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

R1: DALEY, Danielle (GBR) UNR/1749 v (7) RAMIREZ, Evita (FRA) 797/978 (age 18)

the addict · Tennis legend

Excellent. Judging by her recent performances Dani should easily be ranked inside the top 1000 anyway, so hopefully she can start picking up some points and get a ranking soon.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
Excellent. Judging by her recent performances Dani should easily be ranked inside the top 1000 anyway, so hopefully she can start picking up some points and get a ranking soon.

Not sure the 'recent performances' were quite that good - and 'easily' inside the top 1000 might be a stretch....

But, yes, as per the start of this thread, now's her time smile

NB I've never heard of Evita - she barely played any juniors and just seems to have played an enormous number of ITF adult events this year, picking up a few points here and there, making R2 often, which is hardly a great claim to fame.

So I'd say that was a pretty good draw for Dani.....

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Meanwhile, our Sonay is picking up where she left off, currently 6-2 2-0 up....

the addict · Tennis legend

Well she came 4th in Week 6 in the UKPro league (retired), 7th in week 7 (took Emily Appleton to a tie-break in the pool stages) and 6th in week 9, and had some close matches with some of the fancied players, so I reckon she's on the way up wink

Top 1000 is around 20 points, so a way to go yet - and that is where Sonay is right now (and she's under-ranked by quite a bit as well)

the addict · Tennis legend

R1: KARTAL, Sonay (GBR) 996/1076 (CH=985/984 2021) def HERING, Katharina (GER) 1123/347 (CH=672/100 2016) 6-2 6-0

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
R1: KARTAL, Sonay (GBR) 996/1076 (CH=985/984 2021) def HERING, Katharina (GER) 1123/347 (CH=672/100 2016) 6-2 6-0

Good win in terms of score line.

Out of interest, does anyone pay attention or use the ITF rankings now - they seem to have no point and certainly dont seem relevant in terms of any comparisons between players and their relative positions in the game?!

Mentioned because the disparity above demonstrates that vividly!

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Tuesday 23rd of November 2021 12:21:10 PM

the addict · Tennis legend

The ITF rankings are only really relevant for entries into the W15 tournaments where many players in qualifying don't have WTA rankings.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
The ITF rankings are only really relevant for entries into the W15 tournaments where many players in qualifying don't have WTA rankings.

Understand that, but do you pay any attention to them at all, or meaningful in any way other than as an entry tool?

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
Well she came 4th in Week 6 in the UKPro league (retired), 7th in week 7 (took Emily Appleton to a tie-break in the pool stages) and 6th in week 9, and had some close matches with some of the fancied players, so I reckon she's on the way up
Top 1000 is around 20 points, so a way to go yet - and that is where Sonay is right now (and she's under-ranked by quite a bit as well)

Don't get me wrong, as I said at the start, I like Dani and I follow her results, and was impressed with some of her play on livestream this year, as showing a big improvement.

Just not sure that 4th, 7th and 6th in UK Pro League (in 2021, as well) is really all that hot stuff.

(Took Emily App to a tie-break??? Damned with faint praise, to be honest....)

But, little acorns and oak trees and all that - I don't think she's got any WTA points yet, and barely ant ITF points either.

So great to see she's beaten a ranked player.

And won three matches, back to back.

And with a definitely playable main draw.

(And, yes, little fave Sonay is definitely under-ranked - that's a bit different smile )

brittak · Satellite level

Of course, she now has her first ranking point as under the current rules (soon to end in December), she gets a point for qualifying.

the addict · Tennis legend

CD wrote

(Took Emily App to a tie-break??? Damned with faint praise, to be honest....)

I'd go along with that. Emily won three and was runner-up in the first five of the proleague - since then she seems to have gone downhill.

indiana · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
the addict wrote:
The ITF rankings are only really relevant for entries into the W15 tournaments where many players in qualifying don't have WTA rankings.
Understand that, but do you pay any attention to them at all, or meaningful in any way other than as an entry tool?

Personally I don't. There are so many different circumstances as to how players might have come about ITF ranking points that it will be extremely rare that you are comparing like to like in any particular match.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Sonay and Dani won their doubles, 6-3 6-0, against a wildcard pair.

Am pleased Sonay is playing doubles (assuming she doesn't have horribly long singles matches, and it's all a bit too much).

She hasn't played any since 2019.

She's not great at the net and it may well help to get her better, and a little more confident.

And it's fun; she seemed on her own at the other events, when they showed the livestream. A bit of a laugh in dubs may do her good....