Week 26 - Wimbledon - London (grass) - women's main draw

foobarbaz · Strong Club Player

Week 26 - Wimbledon - London (grass) - women's main draw

christ · Futures qualifying

foobarbaz wrote:
christ wrote:
dodrade wrote:
foobarbaz wrote:
RedSquirrel wrote:
The questions about how many instagram followers she now has were inappropriate to someone who has recently had a suspected panic attack and entirely unnecessary in any event, even if it did elicit a funny story from Emma. How to add more pressure on her. I thought she didn't seem particularly comfortable with being told she now had over quarter of a million followers. Why do we have to measure everything by how many instagram followers you have anyway? Tennis isn't a popularity contest. How many instagram followers you have doesn't get you to the top of the rankings or win you tournaments.
The "cause" is the independent variable. It's value is independent of the other factors. Whereas, the "effect" is the dependent variable whose value changes according to the independent variable's value.

"Tennis success" is the "cause", and "Instagram followers" is the "effect", and I would suggest it's probably quite a strong correlation. Therefore, the number of Instagram followers likely does provide an indication of how well a tennis player is performing.

RedSquirrel, I do share the sentiment, however. biggrin

How then does Eugenie Bouchard have over 2m?
"Tennis success" is not the only "cause".
In fact it is often difficult to isolate the main "cause". Sadly it does appear that in these woke times that cuteness is still a primary "cause", although "Tennis success" alerts folk to the cuteness. Good looking players - by and large - have bigger followings than their less attractive peers.
It's a complex world. I gave a generic (rather tongue-in-cheek) response to a generic question. It would be necessary to ask the same question in each sub-group of the data at one's disposal. Just like we do when we compare left-handed players to right-handed, male to female, clay court to hard court to grass court-specialists, etc. The central question needs to be as simple as possible, and the dataset needs to be as large as possible.

I wasn't being critical, but stating the obvious. Pretty people get more followers, and are worth more to the advertisers that value such things. If tennis success puts a pretty person in the public eye, they are likely to benefit disproportionately. Particularly in a visual medium such as Instagram.

GAMEOVER · Pro player

indiana wrote:
Undeniably a pretty decent looking SF line-up and even an interesting narrative - GAMOVER's stat ( from the rags to riches thread ) that every single women's singles final after 1963, other than Wade vs Stove in 1977, has contained a previous fnalist. Can Angie Kerber keep that going?

Anyway the record went this year. For the 1st time since 1977 we are having 2 new finalists in the Ladies singles. At least the top seed made it to the final. If Sabalenka wins it will be the first time since 2002 when seeds 1 and 2 made the final. That was the first Williams sisters final.

junior · Intermediate Club Player

Unnecessary shrieking from Sabalenka

Jan · Hall of fame

I would love a non-shrieker to win the title.....

christ · Futures qualifying

Jan wrote:
I would love a non-shrieker to win the title.....

Ditto.

GAMEOVER · Pro player

GAMEOVER wrote:
indiana wrote:
Undeniably a pretty decent looking SF line-up and even an interesting narrative - GAMOVER's stat ( from the rags to riches thread ) that every single women's singles final after 1963, other than Wade vs Stove in 1977, has contained a previous fnalist. Can Angie Kerber keep that going?
Anyway the record went this year. For the 1st time since 1977 we are having 2 new finalists in the Ladies singles. At least the top seed made it to the final. If Sabalenka wins it will be the first time since 2002 when seeds 1 and 2 made the final. That was the first Williams sisters final.

Not 1 and 2 but 1 and 8. That means that Pliskova has reached the finals of all the British grass court tournaments. She reached all 3 finals I.e.Eastbourne, Birmingham and Nottingham (winner) in 2016 and won Eastbourne in 2017 and 2019. Ash Barty won Nottingham in 2018 and Birmingham in 2019 and was runner up in 2017. Obviously successful in our grass court tournaments over the years but the Wimbledon final has come a little later for both of them. . Similarly Kerber and Sabalenka have been Eastbourne finalists and Kerber has won Birmingham.

-- Edited by GAMEOVER on Thursday 8th of July 2021 05:00:27 PM

the addict · Tennis legend

Jan wrote:
I would love a non-shrieker to win the title.....

Your wish is granted ! biggrin

Jan · Hall of fame

the addict wrote:
Jan wrote:
I would love a non-shrieker to win the title.....
Your wish is granted !

It is!! biggrin

brendan · Strong Club Player

They're taking the p!ss with this final. Is there really no other tennis but wheelchairs they can show us? What happened to Neil's mixed semi?

Jan · Hall of fame

Very well done Ash!! So pleased she won biggrin biggrin

the addict · Tennis legend

brendan wrote:
They're taking the p!ss with this final. Is there really no other tennis but wheelchairs they can show us? What happened to Neil's mixed semi?

It's on the Red Button

brendan · Strong Club Player

the addict wrote:
brendan wrote:
They're taking the p!ss with this final. Is there really no other tennis but wheelchairs they can show us? What happened to Neil's mixed semi?
It's on the Red Button

Not my red button. Just endless wheelchair matches all day

Jan · Hall of fame

brendan wrote:
the addict wrote:
brendan wrote:
They're taking the p!ss with this final. Is there really no other tennis but wheelchairs they can show us? What happened to Neil's mixed semi?
It's on the Red Button
Not my red button. Just endless wheelchair matches all day

It's on BBC website

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Really awkward, poor final, in my view.

You felt for both of them, but it was like watching two people going to the dentist.

Overall, Ash certainly deserved it.

No one who plays as badly as Plis for one and a half sets deserves to win, no matter what she did after. And, Lord, Ash tried to hand it back, several times....