Week 24 - ATP 500 - cinch Championships - The Queen's Club, London (grass)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Week 24 - ATP 500 - cinch Championships - The Queen's Club, London (grass)

the addict · Tennis legend

The LTA report says that Jamie has yet to confirm his partner, but does confirm that Andy, Dan and Jamie will all be there.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
The LTA report says that Jamie has yet to confirm his partner [...]

I hadn't actually gone as far as looking beyond the LTA's home page for the tournament, so thank you for pointing that out.

Madadman · Top national player

Be surprised if Liam doesn't get a WC to qualifying. Shame you can't go and watch qualifying this year.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Id agree - I saw a longer list of Halle entries (10 or so big names including Federer of course), do we know any of the non Brits big names for Queens ( I Cant call it the cinch Championships, I cant - it is a downmarket car mart for Gods sake!!)

flamingowings · All-time great

Liam should get a MD WC I would say.
Cilic usually plays Queens, Dimitrov as they are former winners.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

I love the fact that Queens which is an elitist Tory snobby club, has went for a tacky sponsor like that. Halle is a far better tournament, Im sure I read somewhere a few of the top players hinted about Queens not being liked by a host of players over the years. Agassis book it might have been. He quite rightly couldnt stand the British high and mighty attitude at Wimbledon and Im sure Queens was worse.

indiana · Tennis legend

Hmm, thought I had heard this before, and indeed on checking wiki :

Queen's gets rather a few mentions as ATP 250 or 500 tournament of the year since 2013, as voted by the ATP players.

wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Awards

emmsie69 · ATP level

indiana wrote:
Hmm, thought I had heard this before, and indeed on checking wiki :

Queen's gets rather a few mentions as ATP 250 or 500 tournament of the year since 2013, as voted by the ATP players.

wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Awards

Only the 5 mentions in the last 7 years, must be that elitist, snobbish attitude that makes it such a good tournament.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Well we will just have to disagree on that. My experience of attending was probably the most unpleasant of attending tennis events. France and Australia still well ahead in that regard for spectator satisfaction and inclusivity. And dont get me started on the prices

Vandenburg · Futures level

Jaggy1876 wrote:
I love the fact that Queens which is an elitist Tory snobby club, has went for a tacky sponsor like that. Halle is a far better tournament, Im sure I read somewhere a few of the top players hinted about Queens not being liked by a host of players over the years. Agassis book it might have been. He quite rightly couldnt stand the British high and mighty attitude at Wimbledon and Im sure Queens was worse.

bang on the money and I want to extend that to Wimbledon. Yes all players want to win Wimbledon, because it is Wimbledon. but do they like the tournament, no. Having to wear white, even being punished for little offence like a red headband or different colour undershorts, and having to bow to the royal box. Load of tosh.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

The underwear rules have been very controversial recently, especially for women. There's been a lot of talk about it being particularly discriminatory against black and dark skinned women. And I completely agree, after all, it's their bodies and their experience. I also think it should be spoken about openly because a lot of 'female' issues are basically hushed up, with men being squirmish (or disinterested) and women not wanting to be seen to make a fuss.
So if our young black women feel uncomfortable having to wear white underwear (or end up having to shave, as one player said, when she didn't want to), then I think it's disgraceful.

emmsie69 · ATP level

Coup Droit wrote:
The underwear rules have been very controversial recently, especially for women. There's been a lot of talk about it being particularly discriminatory against black and dark skinned women. And I completely agree, after all, it's their bodies and their experience. I also think it should be spoken about openly because a lot of 'female' issues are basically hushed up, with men being squirmish (or disinterested) and women not wanting to be seen to make a fuss.
So if our young black women feel uncomfortable having to wear white underwear (or end up having to shave, as one player said, when she didn't want to), then I think it's disgraceful.

Last I heard black women still bled red so the colour of their skin won't make any difference to their possible embarrassment. I would be very surprised if many female tennis players of any colour had their periods. It's very easy to not have them for most women (although not all) if they don't want them Maybe TMI for some but I have a mirena coil and haven't had a period for 15 years, birth control pills can prevent periods aswell.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Er, nothing to do with periods or colour of blood, emmsie.....

To do with having black pubic hair and, according to the one South American player, being far 'hairier'.

PS This is not supposed to be indelicate but it matters.

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 12th of May 2021 11:03:47 AM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Good discussion though it is, is the Queens Club ATP thread the best place for it?!