Week 17 - ITF (W60) Charlottesville, USA Clay

Peter too · Tennis legend

Week 17 - ITF (W60) Charlottesville, USA Clay

indiana · Tennis legend

L16:- Erin Routliffe (NZL) / Aldila Sutjiadi (INA) CR 351 (152+199) beat (ALT) Emina Bektas (USA) / Tara Moore (GBR) CR 402 (201+201) by 6-2 6-4

HarryGem · Club Coach

Peter too wrote:
Q1: SWAN, Katie (GBR) 3 250 lost to UDVARDY, Panna (HUN) 326 5-7 3-6
Q1: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) 10 292 def YEPIFANOVA, Alexandra (USA) WC 1092 6-1 6-3
Q1: BAINS, Naiktha (GBR) 7 269 def PRICE, Gabriella (USA) WC 775 6-2 7-5

Q2: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) 10 292 (CH=82 2019) def UDVARDY, Panna (HUN) 326 7-6(7) 6-1
Q2: BAINS, Naiktha (GBR) 7 269 (CH= 199 2020) lost to CHANG, Hanna (USA) 14 5-7 7-6(3) [6-10]

R1: DART, Harriet (GBR) 7 150 (CH=121 2019) v SEPEDE ROYG, Veronica (PAR) 184 (CH=73 2017)
R1: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) Q 293 (CH=82 2019) v PAQUET, Chloe (FRA) 187 (CH=145 2019)

Katie has played Chloe twice before, winning both times.

Really good to see Katie B back playing regularly and starting to look quite decent at times. She's probably under-ranked right now and has a decent chance in this match. Harriet's match might be quite tricky but again, at times this year, she's looked quite good but needs more consistency. I do think she's at a pivotal point in her career. She will be 25 in July and, though of course far from old, in tennis terms she needs to be pushing on now as the next few years ought to see her at her prime.

A shame for Katie S. She's been held back by health issues and recent injury. The W60 level seems the right level for her right now.

I'm really not sure about Naiktha. She's obviously commited to the sport but she has to, in normal times, play an awful lot of tournaments to get 16 good ones. She could almost do with a W40.5 tournament. She seems a bit too good at W25 level but not good enough at W60.

emmsie69 · Top national player

I'd like to see more of our women enter the doubles. They need more matches and Dan has shown them the way.

flamingowings · All-time great

emmsie69 wrote:
I'd like to see more of our women enter the doubles. They need more matches and Dan has shown them the way.

Dan is quite healthy though - all the above women (am less sure about Bains) have had injuries and layoffs recently.

Edit - I don't disagree with your point though.

-- Edited by flamingowings on Wednesday 28th of April 2021 06:24:10 AM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Would be welcome to see one of Harriet or Katie get a main draw win or two. Fran seems to be our only player doing it at this level or above this season. Not sure any of them will bother the French main draw organisers, maybe Fran will do something in qualies, but the clay is such good prep for grass that the Wimbledon run in really starts here.

emmsie69 · Top national player

flamingowings wrote:
emmsie69 wrote:
I'd like to see more of our women enter the doubles. They need more matches and Dan has shown them the way.
Dan is quite healthy though - all the above women (am less sure about Bains) have had injuries and layoffs recently.
Edit - I don't disagree with your point though.

-- Edited by flamingowings on Wednesday 28th of April 2021 06:24:10 AM

Maybe instead of going straight into Singles tournaments when returning from injury and losing 1st round, they would be better off just entering the doubles for a week or two to get some form. Unfortunately because they don't play doubles even when they are healthy, they don't have a good enough ranking to do that.

the addict · Tennis legend

emmsie69 wrote:
Maybe instead of going straight into Singles tournaments when returning from injury and losing 1st round, they would be better off just entering the doubles for a week or two to get some form. Unfortunately because they don't play doubles even when they are healthy, they don't have a good enough ranking to do that.

A valid point for our higher ranked players. Tara and Emina didn't make the doubles draw at WR201 each - they only got a match as alts. Tara is GB #6, and only Heather amongst our top singles players is ranked higher (Naomi, Emily W-S, Sam and Eden are the others). They could probably get in at most W25's if they drop down a level. But that would mean making a judgement call on whether it was worth travelling in the hope of making the cut

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

HarryGem wrote:
Peter too wrote:
Q1: SWAN, Katie (GBR) 3 250 lost to UDVARDY, Panna (HUN) 326 5-7 3-6
Q1: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) 10 292 def YEPIFANOVA, Alexandra (USA) WC 1092 6-1 6-3
Q1: BAINS, Naiktha (GBR) 7 269 def PRICE, Gabriella (USA) WC 775 6-2 7-5

Q2: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) 10 292 (CH=82 2019) def UDVARDY, Panna (HUN) 326 7-6(7) 6-1
Q2: BAINS, Naiktha (GBR) 7 269 (CH= 199 2020) lost to CHANG, Hanna (USA) 14 5-7 7-6(3) [6-10]

R1: DART, Harriet (GBR) 7 150 (CH=121 2019) v SEPEDE ROYG, Veronica (PAR) 184 (CH=73 2017)
R1: BOULTER, Katie (GBR) Q 293 (CH=82 2019) v PAQUET, Chloe (FRA) 187 (CH=145 2019)

Katie has played Chloe twice before, winning both times.
Really good to see Katie B back playing regularly and starting to look quite decent at times. She's probably under-ranked right now and has a decent chance in this match. Harriet's match might be quite tricky but again, at times this year, she's looked quite good but needs more consistency. I do think she's at a pivotal point in her career. She will be 25 in July and, though of course far from old, in tennis terms she needs to be pushing on now as the next few years ought to see her at her prime.
A shame for Katie S. She's been held back by health issues and recent injury. The W60 level seems the right level for her right now.
I'm really not sure about Naiktha. She's obviously commited to the sport but she has to, in normal times, play an awful lot of tournaments to get 16 good ones. She could almost do with a W40.5 tournament. She seems a bit too good at W25 level but not good enough at W60.

You think?

the addict · Tennis legend

If you look at Naiktha's counters, there are only a few from W60 and above - most are from W25's. She has three WTA counters (two are for reaching QR2) and three from W60's (two QF and one R16). Not quite there for the W60's, but at the top of W25's with a win and two finals. So I agree with HarryGem

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

But if you actually look at her most recent W25 results:

www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/wplayer-classic.cgi

Perth - L32
Fujarah - L32
Orlando - L32
Boca Rotan - L32
Newport Beach - L16
Villa Maria - QF
Cordoba - L16

That's 7 events since her 2019 final and she's made the QF once. The success she has had at W25 has largely been due to weak fields - she didn't face one top 300 in her run to that Indian final against Emma in Dec 2019. She beat one top 300 player to win her title in Mildura in March 2019, and 3 of her 5 wins that week were against players north of 480 (W25's particularly in Europe and US can have a number of 100-199 type players). She is the betting underdog in the vast majority of her matches, including W25s, - she is absolutely not too good for W25 level IMO.

emmsie69 · Top national player

Ace Ventura wrote:
But if you actually look at her most recent W25 results:

www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/wplayer-classic.cgi

Perth - L32
Fujarah - L32
Orlando - L32
Boca Rotan - L32
Newport Beach - L16
Villa Maria - QF
Cordoba - L16

That's 7 events since her 2019 final and she's made the QF once. The success she has had at W25 has largely been due to weak fields - she didn't face one top 300 in her run to that Indian final against Emma in Dec 2019. She beat one top 300 player to win her title in Mildura in March 2019, and 3 of her 5 wins that week were against players north of 480 (W25's particularly in Europe and US can have a number of 100-199 type players). She is the betting underdog in the vast majority of her matches, including W25s, - she is absolutely not too good for W25 level IMO.

I agree, 25k are about her level.

indiana · Tennis legend

You wouldn't find many better examples of 25K being their level than Naiktha, even when she was making some finals.

Hopefully she can find better form again and at least start finding a bit more success there. Above that should logically just be only an occasional outing for the foreseeable.

Hopefully for Katie B, on the other hand, this is another stepping stone back upwards, for a top 100 player in the past and that potential remains.

SuperT · Futures level

emmsie69 wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
emmsie69 wrote:
I'd like to see more of our women enter the doubles. They need more matches and Dan has shown them the way.
Dan is quite healthy though - all the above women (am less sure about Bains) have had injuries and layoffs recently.
Edit - I don't disagree with your point though.

-- Edited by flamingowings on Wednesday 28th of April 2021 06:24:10 AM
Maybe instead of going straight into Singles tournaments when returning from injury and losing 1st round, they would be better off just entering the doubles for a week or two to get some form. Unfortunately because they don't play doubles even when they are healthy, they don't have a good enough ranking to do that.

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-- Edited by SuperT on Wednesday 28th of April 2021 04:44:31 PM

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Katie's match should be starting very soon, but still one more match to start (and end) before Harriet's singles.