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Week 13 - ITF (W25) VIlla Maria, Argentina, Clay


Won 6 -3 in the third.   Was watching that at the same time as Dan's and Neal's victory.  They were almost simultaneous!



-- Edited by KK on Thursday 1st of April 2021 08:42:48 PM

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Fran and Naiktha are the only seeds to make the QF, and one will obviously go tomorrow. Haddad Maia still lurking though, and she took out the top seed Cepede Royg earlier todau in what could have been a WTA match 3 or so years ago.

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Doubles catch-up

L16:- Naiktha Bains(GBR) / Conny Perrin (SUI) CR475 (238+237) [1] def Diana Marcinkevica (LAT) / Carole Monnet (FRA) CR537 (335+182) 6-1 6-1

QF:- Naiktha Bains(GBR) / Conny Perrin (SUI) CR475 (238+237) [1] LOST TO Yuliana Lizarazo (COL) / Aurora Zantedeschi (ITA) CR968 (399+569) 5-7 7-5 6-10

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Doubles catch-up

L16:- Naiktha Bains(GBR) / Conny Perrin (SUI) CR475 (238+237) [1] def Diana Marcinkevica (LAT) / Carole Monnet (FRA) CR537 (335+182) 6-1 6-1

QF:- Naiktha Bains(GBR) / Conny Perrin (SUI) CR475 (238+237) [1] LOST TO Yuliana Lizarazo (COL) / Aurora Zantedeschi (ITA) CR968 (399+569) 5-7 7-5 6-10


 Just proves doubles is bit of a lottery!



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No it doesn't.

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R2: BAINS, Naiktha (GBR) 5 252 (CH=199 2020) v ZANTEDESCHI, Aurora (ITA) Q 665 (CH=656 2021) 6-3 5-7 6-0
R2: JONES, Francesca (GBR) 2 213 v CAVALLE-REIMERS, Yvonne (ESP) Q 468 7-6(3) 6-7(4) 6-3

QF: BAINS, Naiktha (GBR) 5 252 (CH=199 2020) v JONES, Francesca (GBR) 2 213 (CH=206 2021)

Fran and Naiktha have played each other twice before with Naiktha winning both in three.

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Peter too wrote:

R2: BAINS, Naiktha (GBR) 5 252 (CH=199 2020) v ZANTEDESCHI, Aurora (ITA) Q 665 (CH=656 2021) 6-3 5-7 6-0
R2: JONES, Francesca (GBR) 2 213 v CAVALLE-REIMERS, Yvonne (ESP) Q 468 7-6(3) 6-7(4) 6-3

QF: BAINS, Naiktha (GBR) 5 252 (CH=199 2020) v JONES, Francesca (GBR) 2 213 (CH=206 2021)

Fran and Naiktha have played each other twice before with Naiktha winning both in three.


 Fran must be favourite this time though given her recent progression, though it's good to see Naiktha finally find some form this week.



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It's on the streamed court tomorrow. Play starts at 4.30pm UK where the local WC is up first, and then Fran-Naiktha follows on.

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indiana wrote:

No it doesn't.


 What does make it more of a lottery is sudden death deuce and match tie break third sets. This applies to singles when it is used too, eg mtb in 15k qualifying, and quite a lot of junior tournaments, both itf and lta. The supposed better player, higher ranked, or whatever, can usually win a full third set but can easily lose a mtb after managing to lose a set earlier. The format does maybe make players tighten up, maybe become better at tie breaks, no bad thing...

The worst thing was the lta fast 4 format with sudden death in tie breaks. The number of times I've seen it get to 9-9 in a mtb, then anything can happen and often does, unlucky net cord, bad call by an opponent, or just a silly error but with no opportunity to come back. Luckily they have now got rid of sudden death tiebreaks, caused far more problems than the odd minute or two it might save in time.

I know both players know the format before starting, that isn't my point, just that messing about with scoring system makes it more of a lottery.



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Bogota Quali sign in is by 4pm today so neither one will be making that unless they have already withdrawn

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indiana wrote:

No it doesn't.


 LOL! There speaks the statistician!



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Spireman wrote:
indiana wrote:

No it doesn't.


 What does make it more of a lottery is sudden death deuce and match tie break third sets. This applies to singles when it is used too, eg mtb in 15k qualifying, and quite a lot of junior tournaments, both itf and lta. The supposed better player, higher ranked, or whatever, can usually win a full third set but can easily lose a mtb after managing to lose a set earlier. The format does maybe make players tighten up, maybe become better at tie breaks, no bad thing...

The worst thing was the lta fast 4 format with sudden death in tie breaks. The number of times I've seen it get to 9-9 in a mtb, then anything can happen and often does, unlucky net cord, bad call by an opponent, or just a silly error but with no opportunity to come back. Luckily they have now got rid of sudden death tiebreaks, caused far more problems than the odd minute or two it might save in time.

I know both players know the format before starting, that isn't my point, just that messing about with scoring system makes it more of a lottery.


 Yes, if you're the weaker player, you would definitely choose to have sudden death deuce.

But as to MTBs messing with the scoring system and making it more random, it's true. But so do normal tie-breaks. We never used to have them (yonks ago). They also favour the weaker player. They also 'mess' with the traditional system. So why have one and not the other?

I'm 100% in favour of MTBs. I feel that 10 points is long enough. If you get an unlucky dead ball at 9-9, then it's tough but you shouldn't have been at 9-9- in the first place. Exactly as if you get an unlucky one at 5-5 in the normal tie-break. 



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emmsie69 wrote:

Bogota Quali sign in is by 4pm today so neither one will be making that unless they have already withdrawn


 Is that on-site only, or can they phone in ?



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Presumably this day and age they can sign in online ? Surely ?!

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emmsie69 wrote:

Bogota Quali sign in is by 4pm today so neither one will be making that unless they have already withdrawn


 Is that on-site only, or can they phone in ?


 It said onsite. I don't think online would work, the whole point is to make sure the player is there ready to play which Fran won't be.  Maybe they'll slip her a MDWC



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