Womens R16 - top half

[1] Barty vs [14] Azarenka
[19] Vondrousova vs [7] Sabalenka

Sevastova vs. Konjuh
[9] Kvitova vs [5] Svitolina

ROSAMUND wrote:

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It sounds like  Jo was  overwhelmed. I think I'm correct in writing this but why was Kvitova given 2  night matches when it was cooler.? She may not like the heat but surely she has to play in it at some stage. The result. could have been the same in a day time match but we'll  never know. 

-- Edited by ROSAMUND on Sunday 28th of March 2021 07:30:12 AM

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 You could literally say that about anything. If only it was on a different court. If only it wasn't a left hander. Or if only this or that. Kvitova, Osaka and Muguruza are dismantling their opponents left, right and centre at least Jo lasted slightly longer on court than Cornet. Jo may be 17th seed but we all know she is a player who has benefited greatly from the frozen rankings. 

 

ROSAMUND wrote:

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flamingowings wrote:

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ROSAMUND wrote:

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It sounds like  Jo was  overwhelmed. I think I'm correct in writing this but why was Kvitova given 2  night matches when it was cooler.? She may not like the heat but surely she has to play in it at some stage. The result. could have been the same in a day time match but we'll  never know. 

-- Edited by ROSAMUND on Sunday 28th of March 2021 07:30:12 AM

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 You could literally say that about anything. If only it was on a different court. If only it wasn't a left hander. Or if only this or that. Kvitova, Osaka and Muguruza are dismantling their opponents left, right and centre at least Jo lasted slightly longer on court than Cornet. Jo may be 17th seed but we all know she is a player who has benefited greatly from the frozen rankings. 

 

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 Jo isn't   the only player to  have benefited from frozen rankings. I know this player has been injured but 10th seed Bertens on her return has played 3 uncompetitive matches . Jo may be overranked but she is not responsible for the way the current ranking system has been worked  out. Cooler weather is to Kvitova's  benefit.

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 And unless you talk to an organiser about why this match was put on when it was it's all conjecture at a poor Jo angle. It was highly unlikely - day or night - that Jo would win based on their forms i.e Jo has no form and Petra has already won a title this year.

Why wouldn't a match at night also benefit Jo given she has also previously been affected by heat?

JonH comes home wrote:

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No point in us being delusional, jo is in woeful form and has been for some time. Im glad shes not playing Mexico , losing to lowly ranked players would just make it worse.

And I fear GB will lose that Fed Cup tie , probably best to not be associated with it!

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 No point in making that comment Jon. It is totally out of order.Remember Jo did beat Magda Linette a top 50 player.It is grossly insulting to our best player to make this comment.She did actually justify her seeding in Miami albeit with a bye which is something some of the plsyers didn't.do such as Brady,Gauff.You denegate Jo's Fed Cup record in recent years and Jo.  herself. . Whoever plays should be able to beat Mexico. Apart from Zarazua the players don't have high rankings. Please  keep your unjust comments about Jo to yourself. If I want to read unfair comments about Jo  I can always turn to the tennis forum.

Id go further and say British womens tennis as a whole is in a poor place right now, however we spruce it up. I hope it improves and we have players like Fran, Matilda, one or two others to hold onto but lets not polish up our top players and say they are doing well.

As for Fed Cup, I hope I am wrong but am fearful that we wont be able to put Mexico to the sword. Whatever jos history in Fed Cup , and that wasnt my point, I dont think she is in good enough form to feel confident in that tie and is best off out of it.

ROSAMUND wrote:

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JonH comes home wrote:

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No point in us being delusional, jo is in woeful form and has been for some time. Im glad shes not playing Mexico , losing to lowly ranked players would just make it worse.

And I fear GB will lose that Fed Cup tie , probably best to not be associated with it!

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 No point in making that comment Jon. It is totally out of order.Remember Jo did beat Magda Linette a top 50 player.It is grossly insulting to our best player to make this comment.She did actually justify her seeding in Miami albeit with a bye which is something some of the plsyers didn't.do such as Brady,Gauff.You denegate Jo's Fed Cup record in recent years and Jo.  herself. . Whoever plays should be able to beat Mexico. Apart from Zarazua the players don't have high rankings. Please  keep your unjust comments about Jo to yourself. If I want to read unfair comments about Jo  I can always turn to the tennis forum.

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 I really don't think Jon has said anything that isn't sadly false about Jo's current form. I suppose there is always context but when was the last time she actually beat anyone of real stature. Sometime in 2019?

As you said earler she's not the only player to have benefiited from the mess which is the current ranking system. Hopefully this will be sorted out soon though some tournaments seem to be going to be on the record for 3 years which is frankly bonkers.

It is hard to guage player's true ranking at the moment but right now and for the last couple of months I'd say Jo's current sort of level would be around 35-55 in the world. Linette is ranked 50 I believe.

Of course we've had these Jo converations before and she's come back to surprise us. But and it is a big but for me, I'm just not seeing much love for the game, much spark from her right now. Her game seems to have lost some potency, especially on serve, which might be in relation to the knee.

I don't think she's in anywhere near as bad a place as Bertens who right now doesn't look like she wants to be on court but there's no getting away from the fact that last night's result was a stinker. The question is can Jo regain some of her form in time for the clay court season where she will have a lot of points to defend? She could end up unseeded at Wimbledon if she doesn't and luck goes against her.

 

As to the Fed cup I'm confident we will beat Mexico on an indoor hardocurt which I believe is being used? If not then that would be a sad day fro British women's tennis.

 

JonH comes home wrote:

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Id go further and say British womens tennis as a whole is in a poor place right now, however we spruce it up. I hope it improves and we have players like Fran, Matilda, one or two others to hold onto but lets not polish up our top players and say they are doing well.

As for Fed Cup, I hope I am wrong but am fearful that we wont be able to put Mexico to the sword. Whatever jos history in Fed Cup , and that wasnt my point, I dont think she is in good enough form to feel confident in that tie and is best off out of it.

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 I don't think  anybody is suggesting Jo is in good form. She has struggled ever since she revealed her knee problem in 2019. Look at the problems Kyle is having with his knee. Why you think Jo should lose at home to some lowly ranked Mexican is questionable. At least in Miami  she lost to a 2 time Wimbledon champion and not somebody outside the top 100. She was unlucky in the AO  where she had the injury problem in  the match against Juvan. Remember Jo was written off when she lost to Qiang Wang in Miami in 2019. As for the Fed Cup one would hope that the likes of Heather, Harriet, Katie B and whoever else is chosen can beat the might of Mexico. Jo seemed  to go off the Fed Cup after 2019 for some reason or other. Last year it was preparing  for the Olympics( which never happened) and this  time transition to clay courts. It seemed to be known she wasn't going to play against Mexico before it was officially announced.