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Week 6 - Australian Open, Melbourne, Australia Hard


Halep didn't hit a single ball within two metres of a line, and the more points she lost even more careful she began to be, at the end she was hitting the ball like under 14's, need to watch the matches jaggy

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Lucky Djokovic isn't black or some folk would be adding a whole group of other people to their supposed racists.

Very sad how the above has gone.

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I think it is you that needs to watch the matches Junior. To say that Serena cant run is plain nonsense. I have watched all her matches in livetime and follow many tennis journalists. All saying the same thing. Dont let your dislike of someone get in the way of the the facts.

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indiana wrote:

Lucky Djokovic isn't black or some folk would be adding a whole group of other people to their supposed racists.

Very sad how the above has gone.


 I dont think that is true, its more the delivery of the message Indiana and the vitriolic message of it. Time to move on though.



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Rather than take your knowledge from possible manipulated journalism, perhaps look to take it from an experienced well traveled pro coach Jaggy? You need to look up two players: Justine Henin and Agnieska Radwanska (And maybe Garbiņe on a good day). I've watched Serena play for 20 years,the only two/three players I've ever seen not try and hit their way through her and fail. Henin had skill, speed and Federer (for me) level ability a very complete player, which I believe had she still continued to play, as well as perhaps Kim Clijsters, Serena's GS tally would be at least be some few lesser. And Radwanska was tiny but very crafty and ferocious and could give her a good match, Garbiņe is the product of the best tennis academy/system in the world and has a very disciplined game when she wants and especially when she was younger and upcoming without all the pressure could nearly consistently handle Serena, as opposed to Sharapova who beat her once at wimby and then never again I believe



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Junior I dont need you to patronise me on tennis thanks. Ive watched plenty of the years. You also have no idea what my background in the sport may be. I dont need to look up anything I have a very good retention of detail as my friends will tell you.

You clearly have a problem with Serena and its letting your judgement be affected. You dont know she wouldnt have won more Slams thats just plain nonsense.

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Not patronising, just trying to educate you from an experienced viewpoint, not a "well I think I've seen it like that so that's how it is viewpoint". (Much like your attitude that my problem with Serena is based on race). Its basic logic to assume (but also no I'm not able to state it) that she may have had more difficulty winning as many slams in a time where there were several other contenders (Venus, Davenport, Clijsters, Mauresmo, Capriati, Henin) over the extended period where her main competitors had no idea what to do against her and the main competitor (Maria) couldn't beat her for 13 years straight even when potentially (potentially) doping. But then again I'm not sure how many times Clijsters beat Serena, all I remember is that one time at the US Open when Serena got defaulted two points before the end of the match by threatening to kill the line judge (the line judge was an Asian lady too, race jaggy). She is a great competitor definitely, and probably also a person, however as many of us know when situations change its sometimes difficult to quickly change how one acts to maintain the high level image and professional and competitive spirit. Much like Novak smashing his racquet over the RLA today, or even someone like Kyrgios who I do believe is actually very active in his community and charity work.



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Serena's definitely not everyone's cup of tea, the same way not everyone likes Fed or Novak or Nadal. And a deep-rooted personal like or dislike for a sportsperson will most likely manifest in the way they are commented on in their sport. How about we just move on from these discussions and enjoy the rest of the Aussie Open eh?



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junior wrote:

Not patronising, just trying to educate you from an experienced viewpoint, not a "well I think I've seen it like that so that's how it is viewpoint". (Much like your attitude that my problem with Serena is based on race).  



-- Edited by junior on Tuesday 16th of February 2021 07:00:00 PM

 

Look at the first two words and what followed... 

And I never actually said your opinion was based on race I said the tone was appearing so. Calling her a cheater quite aggressive and untrue. 

The rest of what you have said has some good points yes, but its all based on assumption. I like to deal in facts of what is said and done. And the facts are 23 Slams, youve got to be in it to win it. Serena has also had issues with her pregnancy and is now in her 40th year. And she is still here. If she wins 24 especially with that draw, then it is a magnificent achievement. I do think Osaka will win the title overall however. We shall see.



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Yes lets move on.

So I think the majority now expect an Osaka v Barty final. Any opinions otherwise out there?

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Amongst all the supposed expert opinions from some on this forum; at the end of the day 23 grand slams spanning 3 decades, and even more doubles titles will speak louder and more sense than anything offered here.



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Jaggy1876 wrote:

Yes lets move on.

So I think the majority now expect an Osaka v Barty final. Any opinions otherwise out there?


 That's the final I expect, but Serena will be super motivated to win here and Brady has impressed me with her good serving, consistency here and overall good temperament, so I wouldnt 100% rule her out. I can't see Muchova or Pegula have much chance though, and Rosamund posted that Muchova is carrying an injury, so that almost completely rules her out, if that is correct.



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Now you're just reciprocating, much in the same way you "not saying" my opinion was based on my feelings towards a certain race or colour, you did though. From my eyes she is a cheater, however there is so much cheating now happening in sports who's to say what is what or how anymore. I only imagine the feeling of Osaka to play her first GS final against her idol, and she was winning the match playing unbelievable, only for Serena to get a warning for coaching/cheating and then demanding an apology for the warning she was given from her eyes solely because of the colour of her skin, then for the fact she is a women and then because she is a mother. Not my cup of tea or really a player who (only in my opinion) should have such a high place in our sport/society. Either way hope its a good match on Thursday

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Crispy wrote:

Amongst all the supposed expert opinions from some on this forum; at the end of the day 23 grand slams spanning 3 decades, and even more doubles titles will speak louder and more sense than anything offered here.


 Is also perhaps why women's tennis is leaps and bounds behind men's, however still push for equal prize money. Tennis perhaps in both genders could look quite shakey going forward



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