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Jaggy1876 wrote:
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Sabalenka will be a top 10 for a long time though with that strength. Probably just went for her shots and second serves a bit too much but its great to see someone attack so much. Dont think there was a drop shot all match and barely any slicing.

 Sabalenka is by far the highest ranked  female player yet to reach a grand slam quarter final. Her record in Grand Slam singles is won 14 lost 13. As a comparison Swiatek   already has 20  wins. 

 Im not sure the point here. Im talking about Sabalenka and going forward. Her time will come.

 It is simply in itself a point/fact, Jaggy. I thought you might have noticed by now that many here are into tennis stats, facts, quirks or whatever so simply find such a thing of interest. 

I think ROSAMUND was probably just quoting you because she was talking further about Sabalenka rather than arguing with you. Though it is a fact that Aryna no doubt wants to change asap. But she is a big talent, with time on her side and the addict makes a good point about Halep for instance. 



-- Edited by indiana on Sunday 14th of February 2021 05:42:12 PM

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Im well aware of that Indy, I like my quirks and facts as well. Ive noticed my own ones recycled from Twitter, I just didnt see the point of the comparison. Well aware of Sabalenkas record but shes certainly on the up reflected by her CH of 7. Not really any argument to be had.

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Jaggy1876 wrote:

Im well aware of that Indy, I like my quirks and facts as well. Ive noticed my own ones recycled from Twitter, I just didnt see the point of the comparison. Well aware of Sabalenkas record but shes certainly on the up reflected by her CH of 7. Not really any argument to be had.

 Hey who are you on Twitter . We can see if there are any more of your stats worth recycling, always on the look out for good sources! Serious, not a piss take !



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Ps it isnt blocking out my expletives any more, anyone else notice ?

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It did when I mentioned a certain insect where the second bit is 'roach' !!

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Heather + off to a good start with a first game break. And time for bed with work in the morning !

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Heather loses the first set 3-6

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Pegula beat an out of sorts Svitolina - I really can't see anyone stopping Ash Barty from making the final from the top half of the draw. It was probably always likely, but with Svitolina and Pliskova gone, it feels like it is hers to lose.

Sad to see Heather go out, but at least she had wins in both singles and doubles. That's the last British woman gone from the Aussie Open; none entered in the mixed doubles, which is a shame, as the Watson/Kontinen partnership was always excellent.

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Ash Barty probably cant believe her luck the way the draw is opening up for her. By the time she plays a top player crowds will hopefully be back. Meanwhile Serena if she is to win 24 will have to do it the hard way. Fascinating stuff though.

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Assuming Barty beats Rogers how do we know Mertens/ Muchova  then Pegula / Brady isn't  going to upset her.Brady has been in GS   semi final, last year and Pegula seems in fine form. Pegula might reach semis to maintain the unseeded SF  record in AO  stretching  back to 2015.



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I was fast-forwarding a lot of the matches today. It's like chalk and cheese that top half to the bottom. Great opportunity for both obviously, and Brady did at least make the SF of the US Open and is backing it up, but when you see all those 3 L16 matches yesterday featuring the mix of legends, great slam champions, big names, potential stars, it's going to be pretty hard for me to get excited for a Pegula vs Brady quarter final.

I know a few on here like her, but while I appreciate her consistency, and respect her results (even if she was the only top 6 or 7 pre tournament main betting contender to be placed in the top half...), Barty does nothing for me as a #1 either - I like my top players to command media attention, drama in their matches, big social media presence, ability to attract the mass market, get my non-tennis sports fans to talk about it, and not someone who just quietly 'let's her tennis do the talking', but that's just my perspective, and know it'll be in the minority on this board. Probably hoping for Muchova to come through that top half, but man, it's pretty grim to me.



-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Monday 15th of February 2021 12:28:09 PM

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ROSAMUND wrote:

Assuming Barty beats Rogers how do we know Mertens/ Muchova  then Pegula / Brady isn't  going to upset her.Brady has been in GS   semi final, last year and Pegula seems in fine form. Pegula might reach semis to maintain the unseeded SF  record in AO  stretching  back to 2015.

 I did make my last post before seeing Brady defeat Vekic. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and Brady was very impressive last night, especially on her serve, and although Vekic became the first person to break Brady's serve in the Aussie Open, overall she looks to be incredibly solid while serving, so it will take a very good player to beat her.

I still think Barty though. I saw Pegula last night, and Muchova beat Pliskova, and have watched them both play on other occasions - I just can't see that they can make the final and my money would heavily be on a Barty v Brady semi final. I still take Barty to win, but I probably did underestimate Brady, judging by her performance last night.



-- Edited by Andy Parker on Monday 15th of February 2021 03:45:30 PM

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Pegula is the daughter of the owner of Buffalo Bills. Makes life easier

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Assuming Barty beats Rogers how do we know Mertens/ Muchova  then Pegula / Brady isn't  going to upset her.Brady has been in GS   semi final, last year and Pegula seems in fine form. Pegula might reach semis to maintain the unseeded SF  record in AO  stretching  back to 2015.

 We dont know, but the point is Barty would have bitten your hand off for the draw shes had at the start. Osaka, Serena and Halep on the other hand have had to contend with Slam champions way earlier than usual. The difference is massive between sides of the draw.



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It really was a very lopsided draw Jaggy, and many on here (and Tennisforum) commented on that towards the start of the week. After R1, SkyBet were offering the following odds, despite many of the bottom half having to play each other very early, as we saw yesterday:

Osaka 9/2
Barty 9/2
Serena 10/1
Muguruza 12/1
Halep 12/1
Sabalenka 14/1

The next was Swiatek at 20/1, Kenin at 20/1 then Andreescu at 22/1. Bianca was obviously much more of an unknown wildcard given her layoff, so 5 of the main 6 contenders in the bottom half, 7 of the leading 9 etc.

The rankings are obviously all over the place at the moment, and many are clinging on to points they won in mid 2019, and the likes of Bencic (11th seed, so similar seeding to Serena) who's majority of points came in 2019, started off at 125/1 and was never really a contender here, Svitolina 40/1, but came down to 28s after beating Bouzkova, Pliskova remained at 33s before and after her R1 win. I'm not suggesting it was rigged, but if Tennis Australia literally handpicked and placed the seeds, however they liked, in front of a camera for all to see, they probably couldn't have got it much more favourable / unbalanced (on paper) if they tried.



-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Monday 15th of February 2021 05:03:52 PM

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