Battle of the Brits Premier League of Tennis at National Tennis Centre

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Battle of the Brits Premier League of Tennis at National Tennis Centre

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
Personally, I'd look at it more as three groups of players, comparing the results of Lissey, Eden, Naomi, Beth and Freya against each other. Heather, Emma and Jodie should in theory beat all the others - Fran, Katy (and Katie) ought to be in between the other two groups. Mind you, I haven't looked at the remainder of the matches yet, to see how they line up for the last two days.

Yes but... its just one group in reality with the highest scorer winning overall. So whilst they may be organised into 3 groups , its the player who does best overall that will win. As such, after day one, Beth v Naomi is the only 2 point v 1 point match up so hence my comment...

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Btw , and Ive not read the rules too closely, but why is an event in south west London still allowed to continue?

ROSAMUND · Futures level

JonH comes home wrote:
Btw , and Ive not read the rules too closely, but why is an event in south west London still allowed to continue?

Is it considered to be Elite sport like EFL football? .

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Eden def. Alicia - 10-7 in the MTB

jb288 · Satellite level

Resounding win for Beth over Naomi, 6-2, 6-2

Beth winning 83% of first serves, versus 50% for Naomi.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Nice to see Katy back on the court and being competitive in this second set

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Heather, Emma and Beth all on 4 points after
2 days play

the addict · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Heather, Emma and Beth all on 4 points after
2 days play

Beth isn't scheduled to play again, so it's between 5he other two

sliced backhand · Lower Club Player

JonH comes home wrote:
Heather, Emma and Beth all on 4 points after
2 days play

Would be interesting if all players had the same number of matches to play. Thanks, however, to the LTA's masterly organisational skills Beth has no more matches to play!

PaulM · Tennis legend

I really hate having to defend the LTA twice in a week but the fact Beth has no more matches to play isn't really down to them.

It seems to me that we effectively have a bunch of alternates in the lower ranked who are playing the days the higher ranked girls didn't want to play, or couldn't. The LTA then matched those players up to ensure competitive matches across the event.

So we had Freya yesterday until Jodie arrived today. Beth played for 2 days until Fran starts competing tomorrow, and so on.

So if you look at it we actually have the right numbers to make up a proper league if from the start the top girls had been available for the whole event. But it would have meant fewer getting some matches in, and Beth wouldn't have been involved at all.

sliced backhand · Lower Club Player

PaulM wrote:
I really hate having to defend the LTA twice in a week but the fact Beth has no more matches to play isn't really down to them.

It seems to me that we effectively have a bunch of alternates in the lower ranked who are playing the days the higher ranked girls didn't want to play, or couldn't. The LTA then matched those players up to ensure competitive matches across the event.

So we had Freya yesterday until Jodie arrived today. Beth played for 2 days until Fran starts competing tomorrow, and so on.

So if you look at it we actually have the right numbers to make up a proper league if from the start the top girls had been available for the whole event. But it would have meant fewer getting some matches in, and Beth wouldn't have been involved at all.

Sorry but I disagree with you Paul. No meaningful league competition (which is how this farrago is described) has some competitors playing once and others four times. Giving players more points for beating higher ranked players is similarly unfair. There are 30 women's matches to play with a total of 10 women taking part. What possible justification can there be for not giving ALL players three matches to play? As it stands it would appear that Heather has been told that she can turn up and the organisers will make every effort to ensure that she is virtually guaranteed first place prize money. This despite the fact that Heather is the player least likely to need it. Just to help Heather a little more she gets to play Fran (the only other top 250 player) and a chance to get an extra point. A chance which is not given to Emma. Sorry but it's a total disgrace and all too typical of how the non-stars are treated by the LTA!

-- Edited by sliced backhand on Monday 21st of December 2020 09:57:17 PM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

sliced backhand wrote:
PaulM wrote:
I really hate having to defend the LTA twice in a week but the fact Beth has no more matches to play isn't really down to them.

It seems to me that we effectively have a bunch of alternates in the lower ranked who are playing the days the higher ranked girls didn't want to play, or couldn't. The LTA then matched those players up to ensure competitive matches across the event.

So we had Freya yesterday until Jodie arrived today. Beth played for 2 days until Fran starts competing tomorrow, and so on.

So if you look at it we actually have the right numbers to make up a proper league if from the start the top girls had been available for the whole event. But it would have meant fewer getting some matches in, and Beth wouldn't have been involved at all.
Sorry but I disagree with you Paul. No meaningful league competition (which is how this farago is described) has some competitors playing once and others four times. Giving players more points for beating higher ranked players is similarly unfair. There are 30 women's matches to play with a total of 11 women taking part. What possible justification can there be for not giving ALL players three matches to play? The eleventh ranked player could then play as a reserve if necessary. Alternatively if there was a need for some players to have four matches then just their best three results could count. As it stands it would appear that Heather has been told that she can turn up and the organisers will make every effort to ensure that she is virtually guaranteed first place prize money. This despite the fact that Heather is the player least likely to need it. A total disgrace and all too typical of how the non-stars are treated by the LTA!

15 mens and 15 womens matches... its a total of 8 on the first 3 days each, 6 on day 4, so 30 in total. But still bizarre and makes little sense other than as a set of individual match ups ie up market training block

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Tuesday's OOP

Main Court from 10am
Jones vs Burrage
Evans vs L Broady
Murray vs Norrie
Watson vs Raducanu

Other court from 10am
Silva vs N Broady
Draper vs Clarke (assuming he's still playing)
Ward vs Choinski
Barnett vs Dunne

I think I'll largely be sticking with the main court tomorrow. First time they've had 2 women's / 2 men's matches on at the same time.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Ace Ventura wrote:
Tuesday's OOP

Main Court from 10am
Jones vs Burrage
Evans vs L Broady
Murray vs Norrie
Watson vs Raducanu

Other court from 10am
Silva vs N Broady
Draper vs Clarke (assuming he's still playing)
Ward vs Choinski
Barnett vs Dunne

I think I'll largely be sticking with the main court tomorrow. First time they've had 2 women's / 2 men's matches on at the same time.

Heather v Emma could be the title decider as both lead the table and Beth isnt playing. Winner could take all (whatever all is and whether it means anything is another thing all together!)

In mens, Liam v Dan could be important in that overall points race also