Entries Week 42 - 19/10/2020

the addict · Tennis legend

Entries Week 42 - 19/10/2020

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

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Jay Clarke has made the main draw of the Istanbul Challenger.
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Istanbul update:
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JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Andy and Kyle are in Cologne 2 next week (Andy not defending Antwerp, personally I like players to defend titles, but I guess he got a big deal from Cologne to play both weeks?).

Dan in Antwerp.

Cam in qualies for Antwerp, but in both alts lists.

Luke playing doubles in Antwerp with Withrow. Not sure re other doubles entries next week.

flamingowings · All-time great

JonH comes home wrote:
Andy and Kyle are in Cologne 2 next week (Andy not defending Antwerp, personally I like players to defend titles, but I guess he got a big deal from Cologne to play both weeks?).

Dan in Antwerp.

Cam in qualies for Antwerp, but in both alts lists.

Luke playing doubles in Antwerp with Withrow. Not sure re other doubles entries next week.

I don't think Kyle defended his Antwerp title either. Just sayin'

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

flamingowings wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Andy and Kyle are in Cologne 2 next week (Andy not defending Antwerp, personally I like players to defend titles, but I guess he got a big deal from Cologne to play both weeks?).

Dan in Antwerp.

Cam in qualies for Antwerp, but in both alts lists.

Luke playing doubles in Antwerp with Withrow. Not sure re other doubles entries next week.
I don't think Kyle defended his Antwerp title either. Just sayin'

Mmm, think you're right. Still dont think it's right, personally I'd make it obligatory, unless injured or other good reasons to defend a title won the year before. Without it, it lessens the narrative imo of the event having meaning as an event, other than just being a stop on tour.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Andy and Kyle are in Cologne 2 next week (Andy not defending Antwerp, personally I like players to defend titles, but I guess he got a big deal from Cologne to play both weeks?).

Dan in Antwerp.

Cam in qualies for Antwerp, but in both alts lists.

Luke playing doubles in Antwerp with Withrow. Not sure re other doubles entries next week.

Ken and Dom in Cologne 2 doubles, Ben Maclachlan also is , playing with Klaasen. Think we can safely say that he and Luke have gone separate ways.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Jamie and neal and Jonny are in Antwerp doubles.

Joe and Rajeev taking a few weeks out. Presumably aiming at Vienna and Paris and London.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Jamie and neal and Jonny are in Antwerp doubles.

Joe and Rajeev taking a few weeks out. Presumably aiming at Vienna and Paris and London. Edit: joe and rajeev are in Vienna , Jamie and Neal are alts. Luke is that next week in Kazakhstan 250 event with Sharan (maclachlan is back with Skugor in same event), Sam Murrays husband.

indiana · Tennis legend

flamingowings wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Andy and Kyle are in Cologne 2 next week (Andy not defending Antwerp, personally I like players to defend titles, but I guess he got a big deal from Cologne to play both weeks?).

Dan in Antwerp.

Cam in qualies for Antwerp, but in both alts lists.

Luke playing doubles in Antwerp with Withrow. Not sure re other doubles entries next week.
I don't think Kyle defended his Antwerp title either. Just sayin'

To be fair, as said Andy is in Cologne 1 and, more particularly in covid times, I think best stay where he is.

Also, if he is bothered about his ranking, he wouldn't be able to add any counting points in Antwerp, whereas any points that he earns in Cologne will count.

flamingowings · All-time great

JonH comes home wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Andy and Kyle are in Cologne 2 next week (Andy not defending Antwerp, personally I like players to defend titles, but I guess he got a big deal from Cologne to play both weeks?).

Dan in Antwerp.

Cam in qualies for Antwerp, but in both alts lists.

Luke playing doubles in Antwerp with Withrow. Not sure re other doubles entries next week.
I don't think Kyle defended his Antwerp title either. Just sayin'
Mmm, think you're right. Still dont think it's right, personally I'd make it obligatory, unless injured or other good reasons to defend a title won the year before. Without it, it lessens the narrative imo of the event having meaning as an event, other than just being a stop on tour.

Not in this case - it has been Andy's only singles title since his last comeback.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Andy and Kyle are in Cologne 2 next week (Andy not defending Antwerp, personally I like players to defend titles, but I guess he got a big deal from Cologne to play both weeks?).

Dan in Antwerp.

Cam in qualies for Antwerp, but in both alts lists.

Luke playing doubles in Antwerp with Withrow. Not sure re other doubles entries next week.
I don't think Kyle defended his Antwerp title either. Just sayin'
To be fair, as said Andy is in Cologne 1 and, more particularly in covid times, I think best stay where he is.
Also, if he is bothered about his ranking, he wouldn't be able to add any counting points in Antwerp, whereas any points that he earns in Cologne will count.

Is that the way it works, move event and you can add points. That seems daft!

I'm not having a go at Andy specifically, I'm a fan of his, but it was a general point I was making.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

flamingowings wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Andy and Kyle are in Cologne 2 next week (Andy not defending Antwerp, personally I like players to defend titles, but I guess he got a big deal from Cologne to play both weeks?).

Dan in Antwerp.

Cam in qualies for Antwerp, but in both alts lists.

Luke playing doubles in Antwerp with Withrow. Not sure re other doubles entries next week.
I don't think Kyle defended his Antwerp title either. Just sayin'
Mmm, think you're right. Still dont think it's right, personally I'd make it obligatory, unless injured or other good reasons to defend a title won the year before. Without it, it lessens the narrative imo of the event having meaning as an event, other than just being a stop on tour.

Not in this case - it has been Andy's only singles title since his last comeback.

As I said, I'm an andy fan and making a general point. The tour suffers in my opinion from many events being just a venue with no history to build a story around. Vienna, Basel, and most of the 500 events are fine, the 250 events lack that. One big thing for me is being able to tell a story through their back catalogue, and players defending, past winners etc are a big part of that.

Not a dig at andy and the fact he won his only event since coming back at Antwerp would make it even a bigger story if he was playing again.

As it happens he is going out first round in Cologne 1 it seems , let's hope he does better next week!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Ps I also believe at Challenger level the events with history are strongest and the ability to tie in a story sells the event. I think the 3 grass court Trophy events benefit from that tie in and are also gaining history. I also feel it at ITF level that the events should sell what they are (the South West England Championships at Barnstaple, an ITF 25 event is much stronger than ITF M25 Week 41 (Barnstaple Indoor Centre) dont you think?

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

From Rosamund in another thread

This is in the wrong week i.e. should be 19th October but Johanna Konta has pulled out of Ostrava.

the addict · Tennis legend

Updated women's ITF lists as at 14/10/20

W25 Reims France
M10 Harriet Dart
Q20 Francesca Jones
A1 Jodie Burrage, A11 Katy Dunne, A12 Maia Lumsden
A37 Emily Webley-Smith, A38 Naomi Broady, A49 Alicia Barnett, A58 Sarah Beth Grey
A67 Emily Appleton, A87 Aleksandra Pitak, A125 Katarzyna Pitak

W80 Macon USA
A23 Tara Moore, A34 Naomi Broady

W15 Sharm El Sheik Egypt
M4 Katie Boulter, M16 Freya Christie
Q11 Emilie Lindh, Q22 Emily Arbuthnott