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JonH comes home


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Peter too wrote:
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QF: KONTA, Johanna (GBR) 8 15 v SAKKARI, Maria (GRE) 13 21

 

H2H 2-1 to Jo.



-- Edited by Peter too on Wednesday 26th of August 2020 03:30:13 AM

 That excludes the Fed Cup match which Jo won. 

 Probably the most relevant of their matches as well!

 

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/wplayer-classic.cgi?p=JohannaKonta&f=ACareerqq&q=MariaSakkari

 

Tennis abstract rates Sakkari as favourite this time, and Jabeur as favourite to make the final, even though Jo is top seeded player left in the bottom half. 

 They might be taking into account the fact that Sakkari has beaten both Coco Gauff and Serena in the same tournament. 

 All Jo's victories over Sakkari have been in the UK, where she would have had plenty of support, which may have influenced the odds. 

 It doesnt work that way, I am afraid. They have what is called an ELO rating for each player which is linked to surface and is also updated after each match they play. 

 

There is a detailed explanation here http://tennisabstract.com/reports/wta_elo_ratings.html but in essence they work out the ELO based on who you play as opposed to round and update it in each match. It is then adjusted for different surfaces. On the list, you will see Jo cant be found, in fact, as I think she hasnt played enough qualifying matches to get a ranking since end 2018. I am not sure if that is correct, but in essence Sakkari has beaten better players and done better than Jo according to their ratings over the past period, and in partic on hard courts....

The ratings are close to the WTA order, but not quite the same as you will see if you click the link       



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Current Elo ratings for the WTA tour. This list includes only those players who have completed 20 or more tour-level, tour-level qualiyfing, men's challenger, or ITF $50K+ matches in the last 52 weeks.

Unlike the official rankings, Elo ratings give credit for who you play, not the round or tournament in which you play them. I've written an extensive introduction to tennis Elo ratings here.

A 100-point difference in Elo ratings implies that the favorite has a 64% chance of winning; 200 points implies 76%, 300 points implies 85%, 400 points implies 91%, and 500 points implies 95%. The overall rating ("Elo") doesn't consider surface, and the surface-specific ratings ("Hard" etc.) are based solely on matches played on a single surface.

To generate forecasts for a specific matchup, use a 50/50 blend of overall Elo and surface-specific Elo. These 50/50 blends are shown in the table as "hElo," "cElo,", and "gElo." The 'default' match type is best-of-three, so in a best-of-five match, the favorite will have a better chance of winning, by a factor that depends on the best-of-three odds.

Has Jo played 20 matches in the past 52 weeks? That is probably why she is missing...

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She's only played about 13 matches in the last 12 months, not counting this week.

According to the ITF player profile, you have to go back to Wimbledon 2019 to reach 20 matches

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Peter too wrote:
ROSAMUND wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
ROSAMUND wrote:
Peter too wrote:

QF: KONTA, Johanna (GBR) 8 15 v SAKKARI, Maria (GRE) 13 21

 

H2H 2-1 to Jo.



-- Edited by Peter too on Wednesday 26th of August 2020 03:30:13 AM

 That excludes the Fed Cup match which Jo won. 

 Probably the most relevant of their matches as well!

 

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/wplayer-classic.cgi?p=JohannaKonta&f=ACareerqq&q=MariaSakkari

 

Tennis abstract rates Sakkari as favourite this time, and Jabeur as favourite to make the final, even though Jo is top seeded player left in the bottom half. 

 They might be taking into account the fact that Sakkari has beaten both Coco Gauff and Serena in the same tournament. 

 All Jo's victories over Sakkari have been in the UK, where she would have had plenty of support, which may have influenced the odds. 

 Fortunate enough  to see 2 of them,Fed Cup and Eastbourne 2019. Sakkari defeated Jo  in the final at Rabat on clay to get her first WTA title. This will be their first meeting on an outdoor hard court. 



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Jo now on against Sakkari.

I see Laura Robson questioning the choice of Hogstedt as coach, feels they will clash personality wise. Early days, but good start if this week is to go by.

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early break to Jo, 2-1 ahead

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First set to Jo, well done. Strong.

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Go Jo! And into the semis.

Lets go JoKo, lets go!

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Jo wins 6-4 6-3 Brilliant

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Really good from Jo today. Controlled aggressive tennis with variety at the right times. Plan A and Plan B all working.
She looked totally relaxed - for me even when Sakkari hit some good shots, Jo was smiling so it looked like she was enjoying the whole thing today.

Azarenka will be another tough ask tomorrow but Jo has a great chance to reach the final.

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Wow, Jo has her MoJo back for the week, thrilled for her after all the negativity, by all accounts she is playing really well this week.

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Naomi Ozaka has pulled out over the Jacob Blake shooting and there  is no tennis on Thursday . Other sports in US have also been cancelled.  



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I think well done and well said by Naomi. Milos Raonic spoke well and said:

Wednesday, Milos Raonic said the ATP and WTA should consider a joint action that goes beyond a small group of players.
I think real disruption, thats what makes change, and I think a lot of real disruption is caused by affecting people in a monetary way and can force some kind of change, he said.

I dont think Naomi should be left to make a stand alone, the other players left should join her. But I think better would be for the organisers to pull the tournament now and not leave the players needing to make that decision for themselves.

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Fabulous win for Jo!

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Sincerely hope this was a joke by Yastremska

twitter.com/BigSascha/status/1298359398033772544

Maybe not a relationship that will last long

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