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Ashley Cooper


Sadly passed away last night. 

 

Cooper won Wimbledon in 1960, a famous win as he played 322 games to win the title, more than any other winner past or since, unlikely to be surpassed. Its effectively 46 games a match, which with tie breakers requires 5 sets in each round effectively. 



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JonH comes home wrote:

Sadly passed away last night. 

 

Cooper won Wimbledon in 1960, a famous win as he played 322 games to win the title, more than any other winner past or since, unlikely to be surpassed. Its effectively 46 games a match, which with tie breakers requires 5 sets in each round effectively. 


 Hi Jon it was 1958 when Ashley Cooper won Wimbledon. He also won the Australian and US Championships in 1958 and was a semi finalist in Paris. He was well beaten in the 1957 Wimbledon final by Lew Hoad. Hoad's performances in the years 1956 and 1957 is one reason why the late tennis commentator Max Robertson rated Hoad the best mens player ever.



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ROSAMUND wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

Sadly passed away last night. 

 

Cooper won Wimbledon in 1960, a famous win as he played 322 games to win the title, more than any other winner past or since, unlikely to be surpassed. Its effectively 46 games a match, which with tie breakers requires 5 sets in each round effectively. 


 Hi Jon it was 1958 when Ashley Cooper won Wimbledon. He also won the Australian and US Championships in 1958 and was a semi finalist in Paris. He was well beaten in the 1957 Wimbledon final by Lew Hoad. Hoad's performances in the years 1956 and 1957 is one reason why the late tennis commentator Max Robertson rated Hoad the best mens player ever.


 You're correct but the main point is still the same,  the title required most games ever to win. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Wimbledon_Championships_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_Singles

 

I recall jack Kramer also rated Lew hoad the best ever and many rate bill tilden, Kramer himself and pancho Gonzalez in that light. 

 

We sit here with our Big 3 and it is so easy that blinkered view to argue which of the 3 are the best ever, reality is many think the 3 above, rod laver and Bjorn borg (remembering he retired at 26 with 11 slam titles,  if hed played to 36 he could have 21 slam titles!) are the best. 

 

For what it's worth,  I don't buy that our current 3 are the all time best, pound for pound when all things like racquet tech, surfaces and fitness are taken into account

 

I was a mcenroe fan but reckon the 11 French and wimbledon titles for Borg does it for me ultimately. 



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JonH comes home wrote:
ROSAMUND wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

Sadly passed away last night. 

 

Cooper won Wimbledon in 1960, a famous win as he played 322 games to win the title, more than any other winner past or since, unlikely to be surpassed. Its effectively 46 games a match, which with tie breakers requires 5 sets in each round effectively. 


 Hi Jon it was 1958 when Ashley Cooper won Wimbledon. He also won the Australian and US Championships in 1958 and was a semi finalist in Paris. He was well beaten in the 1957 Wimbledon final by Lew Hoad. Hoad's performances in the years 1956 and 1957 is one reason why the late tennis commentator Max Robertson rated Hoad the best mens player ever.


 You're correct but the main point is still the same,  the title required most games ever to win. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Wimbledon_Championships_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_Singles

 

I recall jack Kramer also rated Lew hoad the best ever and many rate bill tilden, Kramer himself and pancho Gonzalez in that light. 

 

We sit here with our Big 3 and it is so easy that blinkered view to argue which of the 3 are the best ever, reality is many think the 3 above, rod laver and Bjorn borg (remembering he retired at 26 with 11 slam titles,  if hed played to 36 he could have 21 slam titles!) are the best. 

 

For what it's worth,  I don't buy that our current 3 are the all time best, pound for pound when all things like racquet tech, surfaces and fitness are taken into account

 

I was a mcenroe fan but reckon the 11 French and wimbledon titles for Borg does it for me ultimately. 


 There is a  tendency  in  sport to rate the present as the best because in most cases nobody can remember watching the distant past. It could be argued in the womens game that Maureen Connolly was the greatest ever and goodness knows how many championships she would have won if injury had not intervened. The only greatest that works is when a country has one really outstanding player such as Halep(Rumania), Sabatini(Argentina) Wozniacki(Denmark), Bueno(Brazil). By the way the most games played to win the Wimbledon ladies  singles was far more recent in 1994 being 173 by Conchita Martinez. 



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