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Coronavirus - general, non tennis related


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-- Edited by Elegant Point on Sunday 26th of September 2021 09:07:25 AM

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Covid rate here in Harrogate is 457 compared to the National average of circa 310. Hard to say why, highest in Yorkshire and rising rapidly day by day. Quite possible its a combo of Leeds Fest a month ago, schools then back and spreading at sixth form level and beyond , and a lot of tourists still here so the restaurants are full and active.

Not translating into deaths but worrying for folks like my wife who does shopping and care for a 100 year old lady - dont want to spread it to someone like her even if shes ok.

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With today's report, the UK's official total covid death toll reached 136,662 - ie. it has reached 2,000 per 1M population or 1 in 500.

While there are a fair number of countries with higher overall rates, including the USA, Italy, a number of South American countries and a number of Balkan countries, it's still a pretty sobering mark.

Thankfully, while our number of new cases remain arguably unnecessarily high, with the vaccines and increased medical knowledge, even with all the relaxations, we have lately been coming in at 'just' 900 to 1000 deaths per week - a fairly settled figure over the last 4 weeks.



-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 30th of September 2021 09:58:30 PM



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Cain's recent interview and podcast (him of Cain & Cummings fame) was 'amusing':

I particularly liked this bit:

Cain recalls a "long conversation" in the Cabinet room in Downing Street early in March 2020, about whether to close the nation's pubs to reduce social mixing.

"All the sort of key people [were] saying 'we should close the pubs,'" Cain said. "But then there was a sort of pushback from those with economic interests, saying, actually, this is a huge industry all these jobs will be lost. We'd need a whole scheme to support the industry.

"And we ended up with this compromise space of, 'well, let's leave the pubs open, but tell people not to go.' The communicators in the room were very forthright in saying: 'This is obviously not going to hold up. As soon as it hits the media, this will be pulled apart. And we're best just closing the pubs now.' But that's not where we ended up. And I think that's just one of those examples of poor policy."

Just has such a ring of truth to it....

And the Bojo going way offscript by shaking hands with everyone at the hospital bit...

www.politico.eu/article/boris-johnsons-former-spin-chief-blames-bad-policy-for-uk-coronavirus-deaths/

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Amazing that with 137 new Covid deaths today the media are concentrating on Sarah Everard and fuel shortages - what is wrong with the world.



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Amazing that with 137 new Covid deaths today the media are concentrating on Sarah Everard and fuel shortages - what is wrong with the world.


 

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Certainly every covid death is a sad loss and there have been far too many avoidable ones. But that's currently a pretty normal figure ( I'm Incidentally seeing 137 reported yesterday and 127 today ). 

Overall UK covid deaths over a full week have come down from 1000 to last Friday to 806 to this Friday. In general, as I mentioned above, the death rate has been fairly settled for quite a number of weeks. 



-- Edited by indiana on Saturday 2nd of October 2021 05:32:55 AM

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Sarah Everard coverage is very important, particularly with the various failings of the police and horrendous comments about how women should be hailing a bus in order to stop them being attacked.



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Strongbow wrote:

Amazing that with 137 new Covid deaths today the media are concentrating on Sarah Everard and fuel shortages - what is wrong with the world.


The media might seem slightly blasé now about the covid deaths because, as Indy says, it's the norm. 

And, anyway, what about all the other deaths? 

There were 11,009 deaths last week, in England and Wales (more with Scotland, obviously)

Why should the media make 137 of them main news and ignore the other 10,900? 

Moreover, as flamingow says, the Everard killing and the fallout is deservedly main news - hundreds of thousands of women now not only feel unsafe outside but feel that the very people who are there to protect them (a) will not necessarily protect them, quite the opposite and (b) their police and political bosses seem to think that this isn't a problem, that poor Sarah should have been more 'streetwise' (God give me strength, that almost made me cry) and that women should run into strangers' house and stop random buses if arrested by a what might be a dodgy police officer.  

And fuel shortages run to the heart of modern society (getting people to work, kids to school, patients to hospital, goods into shops, supplies to chemists etc etc) and the handling of it runs to the heart of what you think about the government (from not their fault and blame the media, to utterly unprepared without any game plan). I think that's news. 



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Wasn't that just a shocking comment CD (about her, and presumably all other women) to be more streetwise? What a gutpunch that is to everyone but especially her friends and family.

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Wasn't that just a shocking comment CD (about her, and presumably all other women) to be more streetwise? What a gutpunch that is to everyone but especially her friends and family.


 That was our North Yorkshire Crime Commissioner that came out with that gem. Idiot. 



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I thought the 'run to a stranger's house, flag a bus' could be called 'idiotic' comments - i.e. random ideas, just to try and say something, make daft suggestions, without thinking them through....

But the Allott comments that Sarah should have been streetwise and should never have 'submitted' to the arrest were not those of an 'idiot' - they were those of a very misogynistic, victim-blaming, truly nasty person, with zero empathy. They were some of the most shocking comments I've heard for a long time.

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Yes, CD, and I read that the role of the commisioner is to be "the voice of the people ...". People, get this man out at the first opportunity ( if he doesn't realise that he is unfit for purpose and resign ). 

In general yes the current main news stories do seem the right main news stories.



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indiana wrote:
Strongbow wrote:

Amazing that with 137 new Covid deaths today the media are concentrating on Sarah Everard and fuel shortages - what is wrong with the world.


 

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Certainly every covid death is a sad loss and there have been far too many avoidable ones. But that's currently a pretty normal figure ( I'm Incidentally seeing 137 reported yesterday and 127 today ). 

Overall UK covid deaths over a full week have come down from 1000 to last Friday to 806 to this Friday. In general, as I mentioned above, the death rate has been fairly settled for quite a number of weeks. 


 

-- Edited by indiana on Saturday 2nd of October 2021 05:32:55 AM

                                         
Dealing
 with both flu and Corona is going be a double whammy for the health services this winter !!

Seasonal influenza killed an estimated 44,505 people in England during the combined flu seasons from 2015-16 and 2017-18. That number died from Covid in England in the first nine weeks of 2021. 

Every winter, flu puts enormous stress on the NHS. A global surveillance network detects which variants of influenza are in circulation and likely to pose a threat in the following season. The information determines which strains go into the annual flu vaccines that are then rolled out in established campaigns. Unfortunately Corona is not at the same stage, no mechanisms are in place to predict which strain will be prevalent the following season, however vaccination should have a massive impact on reducing covid deaths.

Race to find pill for Corona 

Pfizer announced on Wednesday new trials of their experimental oral antiviral drugs for COVID-19 as the race to develop an easy-to-administer treatment for the potentially fatal illness heats up. Pfizer's drug is designed to block the activity of a key enzyme that is needed for the coronavirus to multiply.

Merck said its new trial will study experimental drug molnupiravir for the prevention of COVID-19 among adults in the same household as someone diagnosed with symptomatic coronavirus infection. Molnupiravir is a type of antiviral designed to introduce errors into the RNA of the virus that eventually prevent it from replicating. 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-starts-dosing-patients-oral-covid-19-drug-trial-2021-09-01/

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/influenzadeathsin20182019and2020



-- Edited by Elegant Point on Saturday 2nd of October 2021 08:25:53 AM

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I see that the last week's Scottish new covid case numbers came in at slightly under the overall UK figure of 352 per 100K, having been over 800 per 100K three weeks earlier and some dire forecasts of it going quite a bit higher.

The covid death rate in the last week remains about double in Scotland ( 134 out of the UK total of 806 deaths ) but hopefully with the time lag this too will fairly soon drop back more in line.



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The House of Commons Committees have published their report.

Amongst the findings are:

1.The UKs pandemic planning was too narrowly and inflexibly based on a flu model which failed to learn the lessons from SARS, MERS and Ebola. The result was that whilst our pandemic planning had been globally acclaimed,4 it performed less well than other countries when it was needed most.

3.Whether because of inadequate capacity or deliberate policy, it was also a serious mistake to get to the point where community testing was stopped early in the pandemic. A country with a world-class expertise in data analysis should not have faced the biggest health crisis in a hundred years with virtually no data to analyse. This problem was compounded by a failure of national public bodies involved in the response to share such data as was available with each other, including between national and local government.

5.The initial response to the crisis also exposed some major deficiencies in the machinery of Government. The structures for offering scientific advice lacked transparency, international representation and structured challenge. Protocols to share vital information between public bodies were absent.

10.Despite being one of the first countries in the world to develop a test for covid in January 2020, the United Kingdom failed to translate that scientific leadership into operational success in establishing an effective test and trace system during the first year of the pandemic. The slow, uncertain, and often chaotic performance of the test, trace and isolate system severely hampered the UKs response to the pandemic.

13.The Government and the NHS both failed adequately to recognise the significant risks to the social care sector at the beginning of the pandemic. Until the social care working group was established in May 2020, SAGE either did not have sufficient representation from social care or did not give enough weight to the impact on the social care sector.

and it goes on ...

As per Executive Summary: publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5802/cmselect/cmsctech/92/9204.htm

or full report: committees.parliament.uk/committee/81/health-and-social-care-committee/news/157991/coronavirus-lessons-learned-to-date-report-published/

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