Coronavirus - general, non tennis related

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

RE: Coronavirus - general, non tennis related

Elegant Point · Satellite level

tiahemp wrote:
Just wanna share my experience with you. Had corona in Dec, still don't have smell

Many of my colleagues who are under 30 have had Corona (all are at least single vaccinated) and a common theme has been loss of sense of smell (and therefore taste). All have said it took a while to return hmm Hope yours returns soon

Elegant Point · Satellite level

While Corona cases are on the up in Scotland, government guinea pig Gove tests whether being fully vaccinated protects you from Corona whilst clubbing

The Times Scotland@thetimesscot
Michael Gove has become an internet sensation after being filmed dancing at a late-night rave in Aberdeen

twitter.com/thetimesscot/status/1432257907865882627

flamingowings · All-time great

NZ numbers (we are still in level 4 lockdown until 11.59pm tonight, apart from Auckland which remains at that level until mid-Sept). We go down to level 3 (so everywhere is still closed* apart from click and collect food/drink/goods and deliveries can now happen).

26.2% - NZ pop. fully vaccinated

49.3% - NZ pop. with 1 or more doses
(% of eligible pop, 12+)

610 - cases active in community

*(supermarkets, corner shops, pharmacies and petrol stations have been open. The petrol stations are not allowed to sell hot food or coffee in level 4, as this is a big coffee country the outrage has been massive!)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

flamingowings wrote:
That's super to hear about your daughter Jon! I think the enforced gap year can only do her good in the long run and we shouldn't be so quick to start university or working careers. Hope she has a wonderful holiday in Croatia and that you and your wife enjoy London/Bath!

I think Croatia was a little crazy, hostelling around the place for a week or so. Edinburgh on Sunday now! How quickly does a year go??!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
That's super to hear about your daughter Jon! I think the enforced gap year can only do her good in the long run and we shouldn't be so quick to start university or working careers. Hope she has a wonderful holiday in Croatia and that you and your wife enjoy London/Bath!
I think Croatia was a little crazy, hostelling around the place for a week or so. Edinburgh on Sunday now! How quickly does a year go??!

Well, daughter went to Edinburgh yesterday and so far so good. World of difference generally - she has been able to do a few activities and events in her first 24 hours and generally things seem much more amenable to a) meeting people b) doing things in a new life and place and she is happy, it seems.

I know some think being a student should be about the learning, but it is also about young people learning to live and be independent. So, so important.

Fingers crossed and good start (although going up and getting there felt like GroundHog Day, with foreboding attached!)...

indiana · Tennis legend

Good stuff Jon. Yes very much less restrictions generally in Scotland now though face coverings on public transport and in shops ( and theoretically when with others in other public enclosed spaces, ha ).

All the best.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Ok, this is anecdotal, and hardly PHE / WTO / Imperial College style but.....

In early/mid July, when I came to France, the infection rates were pretty similar - the UK's was a little higher but was coming down a touch (it had got up to over 40k per day but was down at 32k or something like that, whereas France's was on the up, at around 28k, say - basically near enough)

The vaccination rate in both countries is practically identical (although France has also rolled out boosters this month already to over 80s and now over 70s)

As of this month, the UK's daily case number is between 25k - 40k

The number in France is down to about 8k - 13k

More importantly, maybe, the hospitalisation rate is about double in the UK.

And all I can see is that masks are still mandatory here, in supermarkets, all shops, etc. etc.

And vaccine passes are needed for cafés, bars, restaurants etc. - and are being enforced.

I ain't no virologist but there might be a message there......

paulisi · Tennis legend

Don't read too much into the number of daily cases without comparing daily testing.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
Don't read too much into the number of daily cases without comparing daily testing.

That's why I put the hospitalisations number (which is double in the UK than that of France) as the more interesting (and quantifiable) number

Although tests are pretty high in France at the moment because they're free. This'll change this month.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Last 7 days:

Patients Admitted to hospital (as per govt. websites):

UK: 7032

France: 3129

indiana · Tennis legend

I hear Boris has been musing that one thing might have to be the reintroduction of mandatory face coverings as a simple move to have quite a big effect. Indeed that pretty certainly would. Duh!

How many costly missmoves can this government make? And too many are to do with trying to read public attitudes rather than following the science. Think right back to the disastrous delay in implementing the first lockdown - that people might just grow tired of it all and not comply if it was introduced ( supposedly ) sooner than necessary. With the latest opening up face coverings were going to put folk off going places ( though many have said that no face coverings would deter them ),

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 15th of September 2021 02:28:58 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Yes. Does he not realise that (a) his job is not to simply provide knee-jerk reactions to instant public opinion and (b) instant public opinion is partly under his control anyway, as a reflection of what, and how, the public are given the info from the government.

But, never fear, Dom Raab is now Deputy Prime Minister - all is saved......

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 15th of September 2021 03:19:09 PM

Elegant Point · Satellite level

Mask wearing on public transport

I have been working in London this week, with a 30 minute train journey followed by 45 minutes on the tube each way. I calculated the percentage of people on the tube wearing masks after each stop and estimated at any one point between 30-70% of people were wearing them (sample size 10 or 20 people). The tube was pretty crowded at times. Hardly any children in school uniform wore masks and in general the people not wearing masks were young. There were signs everywhere asking people to wear masks unless they were exempt.

Mask wearing definitely not being enforced on the trains I would have liked to see more people wearing them, especially the man coughing in a crowded carriage hmm

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Completely agree about masks.

I really don't see the problem. Doesn't the govt. realise how much easier it would be if they stopped flip-flopping between one thing and another and just had a consistent message?

As a connected topic, and just for interest:

On July 14th, Macron announced that in two months time, any healthcare workers who did not have the vaccination (or have an accepted, approved reason for not doing so) would be suspended without pay.

At the time, only 50% of state healthworkers and 80% of private healthworkers had received the vaccine.

There was uproar, and protests, and claims there would be a mass loss of workers.

As of September 14th, 89% of state healthworkers and 95% of private ones have now received at least one jab. That will go up further as many were betting on the fact he would back down.

At the same time, as before, for the same period, hopsitalisations in the UK have gone up - the UK figures show approx 3,800 were being admitted every week in July - and now it is about 8,000 every week.

In France, the number per week is now below 2,500.