US College Signings and General College Chat 2020/21

Oakland2002 · All-time great

US College Signings and General College Chat 2020/21

Oakland2002 · All-time great

gostanford.com/news/2020/8/11/athletics-pac-12-postpones-all-competition-through-2020.aspx

Strongbow · All-time great

Many Thanks

Elegant Point · Satellite level

Transfer news etc

Allegedly rising Senior Bronte Murgett (brother is Finn) is transferring from New Mexico to Missouri, Freshman Alex Maggs is not returning to New Mexico this fall, rising Junior India Ampaw transfering from Samford to S. Dakota, Freshman Cam Isbelle transfering from Montana to Loughborough (UK).

With fewer scholarships available for freshmen due to returning seniors, budget cuts and a number of Colleges cutting M and /or W tennis, allegedly many have been unable to secure a scholarship to the US this year. The US's loss seems to be Loughboroughs gain, with David Latter(originally signed with Alabama Huntsville who cut men's tennis over the summer) Harrison Savage and Will Farnfield (amongst others) attempting to gain a spot on the team......some may go on to study for a Marsters in the US.

Edit 2021:Alex Maggs is back for Spring 2021, only played doubles so far

-- Edited by Elegant Point on Friday 21st of August 2020 05:34:57 PM

-- Edited by Elegant Point on Monday 8th of March 2021 02:37:34 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Do you have any idea what Alex Maggs is doing, EP?

Elegant Point · Satellite level

Coup Droit wrote:
Do you have any idea what Alex Maggs is doing, EP?
Short answer CD is no - roster info a says "saw most of his action in the Fall" which suggests he may have spent most of Spring season sat on the bench....

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Oakland2002 wrote:
gostanford.com/news/2020/8/11/athletics-pac-12-postpones-all-competition-through-2020.aspx

Good old case of union busting?

https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2020/aug/03/opting-out-threatened-by-pac-12-athletes/

-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Sunday 16th of August 2020 03:02:54 PM

Elegant Point · Satellite level

Not specifically college tennis, but more college plans in general - worth a read?

Blog by Prof Scott Galloway of NYU on university value and vulnerability and which are likely to thrive, survive and which will struggle - contains a link to his worksheet containing an analysis of data that has not been peer reviewed.

Re the current pandemic:
"Universities owning up to the truth have one thing in common: they can afford to. Harvard, Yale, and the Cal State system have announced they will hold most or all classes online. The elite schools endowments and waiting lists make them largely bullet proof, and more resilient to economic shock than most countries Harvards endowment is greater than the GDP of Latvia. At the other end of the prestige pole, Cal States reasonable $6,000 annual tuition and 85% off-campus population mean the value proposition, and underlying economic model, remain largely intact even if schooling moves online. "

www.profgalloway.com/uss-university

Elegant Point · Satellite level

Hawkeyes to cut men's tennis

Div 1 Iowa is to cut men's tennis after 2020-21 academic year , sadly a number of Brits there, Oliver Okonkwom(J), Joe Tyler (S), Will Davis (S), Matt Clegg (So), Peter Alam (F) and Irishman Morgan Lohan(S). Wishing all of these guys very best wishes for the future....

https://247sports.com/college/iowa/Article/Big-Ten-Football-Canceled-Iowa-Hawkeyes-Swimming-Tennis-Gymnastics-Cut-Gary-Barta-150542022/

https://hawkeyesports.com/sports/mten/roster/

-- Edited by Elegant Point on Friday 21st of August 2020 05:46:40 PM

Tennpar · Strong Club Player

Elegant Point wrote:
Hawkeyes to cut men's tennis
Div 1 Iowa is to cut men's tennis after 2020-21 academic year , sadly a number of Brits there, Oliver Okonkwom(J), Joe Tyler (S), Will Davis (S), Matt Clegg (So), Peter Alam (F) and Irishman Morgan Lohan(S). Wishing all of these guys very best wishes for the future....
https://247sports.com/college/iowa/Article/Big-Ten-Football-Canceled-Iowa-Hawkeyes-Swimming-Tennis-Gymnastics-Cut-Gary-Barta-150542022/
https://hawkeyesports.com/sports/mten/roster/

-- Edited by Elegant Point on Friday 21st of August 2020 05:46:40 PM

Scary - top 20 team in US uni rankings and just had their best year ever ranking-wise. Hope the women's team is ok - Brit Erika Dodridge is starting her Junior year. Alexa Noel (one of the top US juniors) has just started as a Freshman. So sorry for the guys - hope they can sort transfers.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

I am sure tittle 9 will save the womens team, big football school which means the womens side still has plenty of scholarships to match. I am amazed they have recruited Alexa Noel, genuinely a top US junior one of the best ever to choose college (better prospect than Emma Radacanu) & junior Wimbledon finalist. Both her parents went to Iowa & the loss of credibility to their athletics programme would be immense.

Elegant Point · Satellite level

Oakland2002 wrote:
I am sure tittle 9 will save the womens team, big football school which means the womens side still has plenty of scholarships to match. I am amazed they have recruited Alexa Noel, genuinely a top US junior one of the best ever to choose college (better prospect than Emma Radacanu) & junior Wimbledon finalist. Both her parents went to Iowa & the loss of credibility to their athletics programme would be immense.

Posted by Markus Dayton fb College tennis recruiting - all speculation, however mentions lobbying to try and get Title IX suspended for next 3 years. IMO if that happened would be a game changer......

"yep, if this does continue on thru spring (and just wait until cases start popping up on campuses and we head back to nothing but online and kids back at home....... we will see a mass ending of many Olympic/sub sport programs all together. You already have power five using lobbyist out of Virginia (and trust me those lobbyist that do cigarettes know how to get votes for approvals) asking for congress and senate to suspend title 9 for at least three years (meaning especially suspend Olympic/sub sports for three years), and only do the main four for sports. IF that happens do not count on those sports probably ever returning in next ten years other than as intramural (and some as off campus travel teams).

Many are already floating that is you move all sub sports to intramural programs that charge players to play...... you save millions on campus and even add millions to them lets say you charge by the average of sports on campus: 1100 students twice a year $350 to play an intramural sports that is 770,000.00 in revenue. If a larger well named universities have say three times that number playing intramural at that same cost (which would most likely be higher, especially for travel teams on power five campuses)..... could be 2-4 million on revue a year rather than lost money supporting those sports!

You also have some pitching the ideal of all universities going to D3 and IVY way and no scholarships for athletics for next three years"

Oakland2002 · All-time great

I am a big fan of tittle nine and it is a major reason the US has such a fabulous general sporting reputation across both sexes. Were college athletics and the scholarships that go with it completely decommissioned it would have a massive drip down effect, High School Sport would loose its gloss with no scholarships to chase. Tittle IX is the best thing about US College Sport. In the US life is cheap, fundamentally it is all about dollars & dimes.

College Football in particular will continue to exist & generate enormous income, U22s are for the most part just not physically able to go to the NFL and play with men. They need at least three years playing high quality age group sport to condition themselves. Personally I feel strongly that they should be paid to play and have longer seasons H & A fixtures. I would allow 5 years of eligibility (bin red shirts) to allow players to complete their studies but still allow juniors to declare for the draft. Nationwide there is big enough interest to maintain programmes at all the Division 1 schools the country is so big for example you will always get 20K turning up to watch Boise State, the pride of Idaho.

Similarly basketball but the best players are physically able to go to the NBA. MLB drafts high school players & has a farm system so the closest to a conventional model for professional sport. I am sure the USTA will be closely monitoring college tennis but really shrinking college tennis into a smaller, higher quality set up would suit them in terms of developing professional players. Again for good overseas players I think there would still be scholarships as they massively enhance the quality of college tennis.

-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Saturday 22nd of August 2020 12:51:18 PM

Elegant Point · Satellite level

SEC first of the P5 to set fall schedule, but will continue to monitor developments related to C-19

tennis:
Teams may compete in up to three team events
Competition can take place no earlier than October 1
Teams are limited to events involving only SEC members or non-conference teams from the school's geographic region

www.secsports.com/article/29753440

Oakland2002 · All-time great

First half of this podcast is well worth a listen For anybody who is interested in the politics (Ongoing Politicisation) of college sport and how for vast swathes of the United States it sits like a cuckoo in the nest of professional sport negatively impacting the opportunities for more people to make a living as professional athletes.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172x3bx44bjtmf