Weeks 53 & 1 - 2020 ATP Cup - Brisbane, Perth & Sydney, Australia ($15,000,000)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Weeks 53 & 1 - 2020 ATP Cup - Brisbane, Perth & Sydney, Australia ($15,000,000)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Bah, what a waste of effort from the GB team in making each of their wins vs Moldova so conclusive and waste of my time in calculating just how strong a position they had got themselves into to be one of the best RUs, when the ruddy Belgians go and win 2-1 so all we needed to do was beat Moldova 3-0 by any means

Can we buy back some of these unneccessary extra good games to use in the QF?

But just think of the fun ahead working out the final options for the RU spots with nothing riding on it but the pleasure of the task itself!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Sadly for them, Japan fell away with a loss 3-0 to Spain.

Belgium and Canada still hold the RU spots, with the ties between France and South Africa, Croatia and Argentina determining if any of those 4 countries are able to take one of those spots. Croatia v Arg will also determine top spot in their group.

I see Nadal played doubles today, presumably gearing up for the knockout stages to ensure he had some practice in.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

So Gilles Simon beats Harris and South Africa can no longer qualify (they would win 2-1 at best now and cant get the sets ratio high enough).

Leaves us with France, Argentina/Croatia challenging Belgium and Canada. Looking promising for Belgium.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

QF: (2) Cameron Norrie WR 52 vs (WC) (2) Nick Kyrgios (AUS) WR 29 (CH = 13 in October 2016)

QF: (1) Daniel Evans WR 42 vs (WC) (1) Alex de Miñaur (AUS) WR 18 (= CH)

QF: Jamie Murray & Joe Salisbury CR 45 (23+22) vs (WC) Chris Guccione & John Peers (AUS/AUS) UNR (0+25)

As I mentioned yesterday, the Gooch & Peers won all three of their round robin matches, being taken to only one tie-break & one MTB in the process... I'm not feeling at all optimistic about the encounter.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

All of the first 5 countries as group winners also qualified for last 8 of DC - Serbia, Russia, Australia, GB and Spain.

Of the other 5 still in the running (Belgium, Canada, France, Argentina and Croatia) as I write, Canada and Argentina also both qualified for the DC last 8.

Germany is the only one of the DC last 8 not still "alive" in the competition currently

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
All of the first 5 countries as group winners also qualified for last 8 of DC - Serbia, Russia, Australia, GB and Spain.

Of the other 5 still in the running (Belgium, Canada, France, Argentina and Croatia) as I write, Canada and Argentina also both qualified for the DC last 8.

Germany is the only one of the DC last 8 not still "alive" in the competition currently

Argentina win their group after beating Croatia (H2H record) and make it the 6th DC QF team into last 8. South Africa and France tie singles and so both are out.

Belgium 6-3 matches, 12-10 sets - they are definitely now through.

The other place is between Croatia and Canada now:

Croatia 5-3 matches 10-8 sets. A win v Argentina would take them through, a loss put them out

Canada still 5-4 and 12-8 on sets but now dependent on losses in doubles for Croatia.

Croatia have Dodig and Mektic playing Gonzalez and Molteni, should be close but maybe one would put Dodig and Mektic as slight favourites. It is nearly midnight in Sydney and this match has just started, I believe Argentina will go again in their QF tie tomorrow night, also in Sydney.

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Wednesday 8th of January 2020 01:01:20 PM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

The Croatians are heading into an MTB. One MTB to decide which of them or Canada go into the QF round. I bet the Canadians are loving this (not).

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

And Croatia lose, so Canada reach the last 8!

7 of the DC QF teams are in the last 8 here also - Belgium the only "newbies" in place of Germany from the DC list.

Serbia v Canada

Argentina v Russia

GB v Australia

Belgium v Spain

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

So, from the group stages and covering BOTH singles and doubles, here are the players with the most wins:

4 wins - Djokovic, Khachanov, Medvedev, Nadal, Shapovalov

3 wins - Auger-Aliassime, Bautista-Agut, Carreno-Busta, Dimitrov, Fognini, Guccione, Hurkacz, Peers, Ruud

2 wins - 31 players had 2 wins including the 4 Brits that have played (Dan, Cam, Jamie and Joe)

For what it is worth, the players with 3 wins or more in the Davis Cup are listed below: you will see from the above that all of the players on 4 wins in the ATP Cup (bar Medvedev who didnt play in the Davis Cup) where also among the top performers in the Davis Cup as well, from the list below. Maybe these 4 players ( Djokovic, Khachanov, Nadal, Shapovalov) are worth having money on in the Aussie Open?!

(DAVIS CUP - Player Wins
Nadal 8 (going well again in Oz)
Rublev 6 (not playing in Oz)
Pospisil 5 (not playing in Oz)
Shapovalov 5 (going well again in Oz)
De Minaur 3 (2 wins so far in Oz)
Djokovic 3 (going well again in Oz)
Edmund 3 (not playing in Oz)
Granollers 3 (not playing in Oz)
Khachanov 3 (going well again in Oz))

Born2WinTennis · Club Coach

My guess would be Serbia, Russia, Australia and Spain in the semis!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Born2WinTennis wrote:
My guess would be Serbia, Russia, Australia and Spain in the semis!

None of the last 8 played each other in the Davis Cup, so no recent H2H to look at, but your last 4 list looks like the most likely combo to me. I hope GB can prove it wrong though versus the Aussies

indiana · Tennis legend

Hope the Belgians and ( on much dodgier ground ) the Canadians enjoyed their day as each of the days' 3 groups failed to produce better RUs.

So Belgium drop into our half. But I'm doubting that there will be a GB vs Belgium repeat.

For GB I do think the Aussies are a better option than what the two RUs have in their QFs.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Hope the Belgians and ( on much dodgier ground ) the Canadians enjoyed their day as each of the days' 3 groups failed to produce better RUs.

So Belgium drop into our half. But I'm doubting that there will be a GB vs Belgium repeat.

For GB I do think the Aussies are a better option than what the two RUs have in their QFs.

Agreed, Australia or Spain or Serbia - to be fair, Serbia might be beatable at a stretch. But, Aussies best option. Assuming that we can manage to win the doubles, we have to win a singles. Cam v Kyrgios, depends if Nick K turns up but he will be strong favourite. Cam did beat him via a retirement in 2018 though!

Can Dan beat De Minaur - it is do able, Dan won last time they played in Canada Masters last summer.

So, Australia favourites but GB have a decent chance.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

That said, these could prove interesting

Serbia v Canada - FAA could well beat Lajovic, probably favourite and it could go down to a doubles. Canada arent bad in the doubles department.

Argentina v Russia - Pella beat Khachanov only time they played, again could come down to a doubles if that H2H proves to be replicated

GB v Australia - Cam did beat Kyrgios on a retirement in their only match, and Dan beat De Minaur last time out . And doubles is a 50/50 shout

Belgium v Spain - cant really offer anything to give Belgium hope in this one though!