Germany win 3-0 after a mammoth TB, that helps GB though

There's the tie!  

R3:  Jamie Murray & Neal Skupski CR 54 (23+31) defeated Wesley Koolhof & Jean-Julien Rojer CR 34 (14+20) by 6-4 7-6(6) 

The best match score we can now have if we lose the Kazakhstan tie is 3-3 ( if we lose 1-2 ). There is only yet one likely 2nd placed team guaranteed to be better ( Russia 4-2 ), Argentina being on 3-3 after losing that mamoth doubles final set TB to Germany.

However, if defeated by Kazakhstan we can't match the Argentina sets score 8-6 (57%). We are currently 5-3 in sets. Best in a loss would be 4-4, putting us on a final 9-7 (56%)

Therefore, assuming Russia finish 2nd behind Spain in Group B and Argentina 2nd behind Germany in Group C,  we will have to beat Kazakhstan to progress.

 

( as previously discussed, all 2nd place teams will be 1-1 for ties so matches won and lost will be the first divider and then sets ).

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 20th of November 2019 07:40:40 PM

indiana wrote:

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The best match score we can now have if we lose the Kazakhstan tie is 3-3 ( if we lose 1-2 ). There is only yet one likely 2nd placed team guaranteed to be better ( Russia 4-2 ), Argentina being on 3-3 after losing that mamoth doubles final set TB to Germany.

However, if defeated by Kazakhstan we can't match the Argentina sets score 8-6 (57%). We are currently 5-3 in sets. Best in a loss would be 4-4, putting us on a final 9-7 (56%)

Therefore, assuming Russia finish 2nd behind Spain in Group B and Argentina 2nd behind Germany in Group C,  we will have to beat Kazakhstan to progress.

 

( as previously discussed, all 2nd place teams will be 1-1 for ties so matches won and lost will be the first divider and then sets ).

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 20th of November 2019 07:40:40 PM

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 Needing to win is at least clear. Against Kazakhs I fancy the doubles, the singles will be interesting. Kukushkin is dangerous, not sure which of our guys is best playing him. We need to ensure we beat Bublik. It would need to be Andy or Kyle as Dan will be number one if he plays. Id rather save Andy for the QF and play Kyle and Dan tomorrow to be honest but it is a tough call. 

 

Kukushkin beat Kyle when they played on grass, Id rather give Dan another go at #1. 

Fognini beats Opelka in 3 sets in the opening Italy vs USA match and that appears to have knocked out USA.

Argentina's record is 1-1 3-3 8-6

The best USA can now do ( with a couple of 2-0 wins ) is 1-1 3-3 7-6 and it won't go to their err rather good games %.

Italy remain in with a chance of being one of the best two 2nd place teams.

I'm quite relieved there'll be no repercussions from that 6-0 6-0 USA win. Imagine if Argentina were out of the equation and it was GB who were directly affected by only a couple of games - our media would have an absolute field day. They really will have to sort that out for next year.

I've really enjoyed the past few days, some excellent tennis, and more to come, but there's obviously a few issues they'll need to iron out, like a potential very late finish in the Italy-USA and Australia-Belgium ties (now that Goffin has just broke), probably even later than yesterday - they really could do with it being 10 or 14 days so that it's not all squeezed in and a little bit rushed, or at least try and find an additional court to spread the ties out a bit.

Not sure if it was mentioned on here, but interestingly, Djokovic mentioned earlier that he'd like the ATP Cup and this to merge, like a lot of people, and that it'd be better earlier in the year, and he mentioned September (that'll go down well with Roger, ha), but it would be fantastic if they could work something out - even possibly have something in April when the Fed Cup is one. My absolute ideal scenario would be to have a 2 week period in the calendar and have the DC and FC played in the same venue (but seperate competitions, not mixed doubles are anything), maybe knock both down to 12 nations for logistical reasons, but have them both compete for their respective cup competitions and it'll be like a proper world competition, and almost like a 5th major. I'd love that.