Two young Greek students I know bought tickets, randomly, hoping to get a Tsitsipas match.
Never been to a tennis match before.
Chose Tuesday evening, randomly, and were dead miserable to find out, straight off, that young Tsit. was playing on Monday.
Wow, were they over the moon last night
(AND have now splashed out and bought extra tickets for today and Tsitsipas too).
One of the great things about the O2 event has been the eclectic nature of the crowd. In the above example, I get why they would want to watch their home player, but it is so hard to tell. And yet in the crowds at each match there are all sorts of fans from the countries playing and banners, flags etc, how on earth do they get organised!
I have a work colleague who is Bulgarian and went two years ago to see Dimitrov, saw a group match and then went to final and saw him win that. Went back to a session last year and has got tickets for tonight also and Friday night as well, and is hoping to pick up some finals tickets if she can.
I wonder if Turin will offer the same eclectic fan base that London is able to?
Wow what an awesome match last night, Thiem gets his first win vs Djokovic on a hard court. Perhaps a sign of things to come, although in general, the older guys will no doubt have more niggles at this time of year, after a whole season, than the younger guys.
Mildly, at 5-1 up in the 3rd he must have thought it was in the bag....... but Raffas comeback was very satisfying to watch . That's what I love about tennis, it's never over until it's over.
Med did kind of go off the boil, especially with his needless sarcastic looks towards his box, but a hell of a comeback from Rafa nevertheless - he also saved a MP at *1-5.
So, if Zverev beats Tsitsipas (just started), Zverez tops the group, Med is out, and Tsitsipas vs Nadal will become a straight shootout like Novak-Roger tomorrow, but if Tsitsipas wins then it becomes complicated and depending on sets won, it would be all to play for in both matches - someone could go through on 1 win, or alternatively, someone could go out on 2 wins.
Tsitsipas a set and *4-1 up - if he wins in straights then he is through. Shouldn't count chickens after what happened earlier, but it is looking very likely.
I wonder who they put on first on Friday. It would be strange for Nadal to have another afternoon match, but if Zverev beat Medvedev 2-0, Nadal would be out before he even played Tsitsipas, so really Nadal should be on first to set up that other match. If Nadal lost, then Medvedev would go through with a straight sets win over Zverev later in the day.
Edit - Nadal is out if Zverev wins (by any margin).
-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Wednesday 13th of November 2019 09:38:02 PM
I wonder who they put on first on Friday. It would be strange for Nadal to have another afternoon match, but if Zverev beat Medvedev 2-0, Nadal would be out before he even played Tsitsipas, so really Nadal should be on first to set up that other match. If Nadal lost, then Medvedev would go through with a straight sets win over Zverev later in the day.
Edit - Nadal is out if Zverev wins (by any margin).
-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Wednesday 13th of November 2019 09:38:02 PM
Is that correct? If Nadal beats tsitsipas, and zverev wins we have a 3 way tie and it goes to sets percentage, so tsitsipas would top that. But then it goes to games percentage doesn't it and that all to play for? I thought h2h only used when 2 players tie? I could be wrong...
I wonder who they put on first on Friday. It would be strange for Nadal to have another afternoon match, but if Zverev beat Medvedev 2-0, Nadal would be out before he even played Tsitsipas, so really Nadal should be on first to set up that other match. If Nadal lost, then Medvedev would go through with a straight sets win over Zverev later in the day.
Edit - Nadal is out if Zverev wins (by any margin).
-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Wednesday 13th of November 2019 09:38:02 PM
Is that correct? If Nadal beats tsitsipas, and zverev wins we have a 3 way tie and it goes to sets percentage, so tsitsipas would top that. But then it goes to games percentage doesn't it and that all to play for? I thought h2h only used when 2 players tie? I could be wrong...
Yep, official ATP sheets have it that any Zverev win, then he and Stefanos would go through:
A lot are thinking along your lines, but they basically remove Tsitsipas if Zverev and Nadal were tied for sets and then goes to H2H. Games only comes into it if all 3 were on the same sets ratio, which can't happen now.
Comment 4: 3 players have 2 wins and the other player has 0 wins. The player with 0 wins is eliminated. Of the 3 players with 2 wins, 1 players sets won-loss is 5-2 for 71.43%; the other 2 players both have a 4-3 record in sets for 57.14%. In this case there is 1 superior player (71.43%) and the remaining 2 players are tied; it now reverts to the head to head result of the 2 remaining players with the winning player advancing as group runner-up.
-- Edited by JonH comes home on Wednesday 13th of November 2019 10:38:09 PM
Although they arent playing this week, I see the Bryan's have announced they will retire after the US Open next season, so in fact they wont be seen at Tour Finals again.
Hope their final season goes well and congrats on a great career.
For mens tennis that is epic. If nadal gets 2nd in group and plays thiem, thiem will stand a chance of beating all the big 3 in one event. Wow.
Djoko v Federer will be interesting as well!
I wonder if anyone has ever done this. Beaten Fed, Nadal and Djoko all in the same event? It would very much doubt it but would be very interested if someone could prove me wrong!