Week 37 - Challenger 90 ($81,240+H) - American Express Istanbul - Turkey (hard)

EddietheEagle · County player

Week 37 - Challenger 90 ($81,240+H) - American Express Istanbul - Turkey (hard)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

flamingowings wrote:
Priesty wrote:
Go back to 15Ks for a bit Jay. Learn to win again.
He is playing Glasgow next week, whatever level that is.

Challenger.

wolf · Tennis legend

Jay has withdrawn from the doubles, reason down as "personal".

seagull · Hall of fame

He has also withdrawn from Glasgow

seagull · Hall of fame

First set to Evan 6-4

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L16: (4) Scott Clayton & Evan Hoyt CR 412 (194+218) vs (ALT) Artem Dubrivnyy & Denis Yevseyev (RUS/KAZ) CR 1034 (680+354)

DF · Tennis legend

Evan has taken the first set 6-4 and is level at 4-4 in the second

seagull · Hall of fame

Evan wins 6-4, 7-5. Next up 13th seed Nedovyesev or wild card Cengiz

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L32: Evan Hoyt WR 354 defeated (ALT) Mikhail Elgin (RUS) WR 1609 by 4 & 5 smile

emmsie69 · Top national player

I wouldn't be surprised to hear he was suffering from depression. Its not an easy life for a young person and I think the fallout from the whole mixed doubles debacle may have taken its toll. I don't think at the time he realised what an absolutely shoddy thing it was to do and that he had been played well and truly by the Gauff team but like all of us old hands, you live and learn. Of course it could just as easily not be that but I think he has 1 won match since the proverbial **** hit the fan.

Nix · Futures level

emmsie69 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised to hear he was suffering from depression. Its not an easy life for a young person and I think the fallout from the whole mixed doubles debacle may have taken its toll. I don't think at the time he realised what an absolutely shoddy thing it was to do and that he had been played well and truly by the Gauff team but like all of us old hands, you live and learn. Of course it could just as easily not be that but I think he has 1 won match since the proverbial **** hit the fan.

I agree Emmsie. It would be a hell of a coincidence if not. I was disappointed with Jay at the time but I'm pretty sure he wont do anything like that again. I don't want to see it affect his career; he's still very young and we've all done daft things when we're young. Maybe he needs to drop a level and rebuild his confidence.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L16: (13) Aleksandr Nedovyesov (KAZ) WR 217 (CH = 72 in April 2014 - he's now 32) vs Evan Hoyt WR 354

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

the lifestyle the tennis players live, I know I would hate it and my 20 something old self would have struggled as well. I have had jobs that require me to travel and be away from home a lot in my life and I always found a hotel lifestyle fine for one night or two a week but endlessly on the road, it must be really really hard.

Back in the day, the Aussies and other countries troups of players would tour together and have a lot of camaraderie, alongside a more relaxed attitude to food and drink etc which probably made for a more sociable lifestyle. If you dont have drink and need to watch your diet, are with a coach and occasional friend, and stuck in a room playing computer games endlessly outside of training and playing, boy that would be a really c r a p way of living.

I am not surprised it takes its toll and am actually more surprised we dont hear of more players being mentally impacted by this sport. And at Challenger and Futures level where there is also less money and thus more to worry about and maybe less to do due to lack of resources, it must be even tougher, added to that poorer accommodation, travelling at the back of the plane etc etc etc

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
the lifestyle the tennis players live, I know I would hate it and my 20 something old self would have struggled as well. I have had jobs that require me to travel and be away from home a lot in my life and I always found a hotel lifestyle fine for one night or two a week but endlessly on the road, it must be really really hard.

Back in the day, the Aussies and other countries troups of players would tour together and have a lot of camaraderie, alongside a more relaxed attitude to food and drink etc which probably made for a more sociable lifestyle. If you dont have drink and need to watch your diet, are with a coach and occasional friend, and stuck in a room playing computer games endlessly outside of training and playing, boy that would be a really c r a p way of living.

I am not surprised it takes its toll and am actually more surprised we dont hear of more players being mentally impacted by this sport. And at Challenger and Futures level where there is also less money and thus more to worry about and maybe less to do due to lack of resources, it must be even tougher, added to that poorer accommodation, travelling at the back of the plane etc etc etc

Basically this was why Oli Golding packed in playing, and I am sure many others too.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Jay is in a luckier position than some, though, in having a strong family support team.

But it can be very lonely.

And players need a strong club to fall back on too, with tennis friends and tennis 'normal' life (as well as non-tennis friends and normal life).

He certainly looked rather 'lost' though, yesterday.