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RE: Week 35/36 - US Open, Flushing Meadows, New York City (hard)


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Schwartzman beats Zverev. Zverev is really struggling this year, it's sad to see.


Good year, bad year, on form, off form, Zverev's Slam best is two QFs at RG.

Though yes I do hope that he can get back onto a much better path generally and in time bring his best form to Slams. 


 Diego has made 3 slam QF's now (so better than Zverev's record so far) but that wasn't really my point specifically.

It's not so much the slams but the overall performance. So many double faults, passive play, lack of belief in self. When I watch him it sometimes it seems inevitable that he will be broken and lose. Like in the 4th set I was thinking - Diego will win this, even when Sascha broke him back. 

Edited to make sense.


Yes, utterly frustrating to watch. 

Given he has such high tennis professional family members surrounding him, not to mention the rest of his team, his lack of strategy is just mind-blowing. As tweets have said: great grinding. But why would a guy 6ft 6 with his weapons be grinding? 

There's obviously (well, presumably, at least) something going on/going wrong in his head. It's just not possible that a player like him should play (consistently) like that otherwise.  



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Fed is now favourite to win this according to Tennis Abstract, although they have it close between him and Rafa

2019 US Open Men's Draw Forecast
Player SF F W
(23)Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) 20.7% 3.2% 0.7%
(5)Daniil Medvedev (RUS) 79.3% 30.3% 15.0%
(3)Roger Federer (SUI) 94.7% 65.8% 41.4%
Grigor Dimitrov (BUL) 5.3% 0.7% 0.1%
(24)Matteo Berrettini (ITA) 33.4% 5.1% 0.6%
(13)Gael Monfils (FRA) 66.6% 16.7% 3.7%
(20)Diego Sebastian Schwartzman 12.8% 5.5% 0.8%
(2)Rafael Nadal (ESP) 87.2% 72.7% 37.7%

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This is the weakest Grand Slam Quarters line up I can remember in a while.

Wawrinka vs Medvedev is probably the only one that I would be interested in watching and the winner will probably be the only player able to prevent a Federer vs Nadal final. Although they've still never met at Flushing Meadows so I wouldn't be surprised.



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This is the weakest Grand Slam Quarters line up I can remember in a while.

Wawrinka vs Medvedev is probably the only one that I would be interested in watching and the winner will probably be the only player able to prevent a Federer vs Nadal final. Although they've still never met at Flushing Meadows so I wouldn't be surprised.


 I think if Dimitrov is genuinely back to form of two years ago, he may stand a chance against Roger Federer. I hope he is. However, Nadal genuinely has a comfortable run and, as mentioned previously, he could well wrap up year end number one this week by going 2000 points clear in the Race.  



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Coup Droit wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
indiana wrote:
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Schwartzman beats Zverev. Zverev is really struggling this year, it's sad to see.


Good year, bad year, on form, off form, Zverev's Slam best is two QFs at RG.

Though yes I do hope that he can get back onto a much better path generally and in time bring his best form to Slams. 


 Diego has made 3 slam QF's now (so better than Zverev's record so far) but that wasn't really my point specifically.

It's not so much the slams but the overall performance. So many double faults, passive play, lack of belief in self. When I watch him it sometimes it seems inevitable that he will be broken and lose. Like in the 4th set I was thinking - Diego will win this, even when Sascha broke him back. 

Edited to make sense.


Yes, utterly frustrating to watch. 

Given he has such high tennis professional family members surrounding him, not to mention the rest of his team, his lack of strategy is just mind-blowing. As tweets have said: great grinding. But why would a guy 6ft 6 with his weapons be grinding? 

There's obviously (well, presumably, at least) something going on/going wrong in his head. It's just not possible that a player like him should play (consistently) like that otherwise.  


 He has a thing going on with his now former manager/ management company (think he is now with Federer's management company) but not sure if there is also something else (like a curse on that WTF* trophy? wink

 

*Andy - injuries, Dimitrov - not been the same since either although is showing some improvement currently.



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Born2WinTennis wrote:

This is the weakest Grand Slam Quarters line up I can remember in a while.

Wawrinka vs Medvedev is probably the only one that I would be interested in watching and the winner will probably be the only player able to prevent a Federer vs Nadal final. Although they've still never met at Flushing Meadows so I wouldn't be surprised.


 I think if Dimitrov is genuinely back to form of two years ago, he may stand a chance against Roger Federer. I hope he is. However, Nadal genuinely has a comfortable run and, as mentioned previously, he could well wrap up year end number one this week by going 2000 points clear in the Race.  


 Well it came to pass and dimitrov took fed in 5 sets. Dimitrov v Medvedev in the semis certainly makes things interesting.



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Wow, Baby Fed beat Big Fed

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Love the fact that Dimitrov has been playing SO badly (pre-US open he'd lost six of his last seven matches since Wimbledon and cropped to 78 in the world) that his two coaches had not turned up and left him to sort things out for himself.
Guess they're out of a job now and he's saved himself a small fortune

And, yes, Fed's back was playing up, as it does as you get older...... Grand Slams are not five sets for nothing...



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 4th of September 2019 05:56:57 AM

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Well done Dimi!

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Big Matteo on the verge of the semi finals here, one game away.

Double faulted on MP no, and now back on serve. Monfils serving at *4-5.



-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Wednesday 4th of September 2019 09:52:39 PM

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Matteo Berrettini wins. Only caught the 5th set but it had it all.

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Imagine if he lost from the position he was in. 5-2* up, then DF on MP at *5-3, then 2 more MPs before the tie break, then *5-2 in the tie break before losing both mini breaks. Gael helped him with his DFs in the TB, but he would have been absolutely crushed if he lost from that position, he was so tight. I think Nadal (assuming he beats Diego) vs Monfils would have been a better semi final, but it's nice to see a couple of 1996ers making the semi final (that would be a nice final...), and I'd imagine if he keeps improving and doing well in the big events, he could end up becoming pretty popular.

He's now 9th in the race to London, 20 points off 8th, and at least 1 of the top 8 pulling out (Nadal...) wouldn't be a surprise, so he has a great chance of making it.

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Ace - I don't/ didn't think it matters as either one of them will be flattened by Rafa in the SF (I like Diego but - this is Rafa we are talking about). Lucky to get 9 games off him type of scoreline.

Those back to back Monfils double faults were painful.

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Imagine if he lost from the position he was in. 5-2* up, then DF on MP at *5-3, then 2 more MPs before the tie break, then *5-2 in the tie break before losing both mini breaks. Gael helped him with his DFs in the TB, but he would have been absolutely crushed if he lost from that position, he was so tight. I think Nadal (assuming he beats Diego) vs Monfils would have been a better semi final, but it's nice to see a couple of 1996ers making the semi final (that would be a nice final...), and I'd imagine if he keeps improving and doing well in the big events, he could end up becoming pretty popular.

He's now 9th in the race to London, 20 points off 8th, and at least 1 of the top 8 pulling out (Nadal...) wouldn't be a surprise, so he has a great chance of making it.


  Bet the atp wished the wtf event was already in Turin from this season 



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Great year for Berrettini.

As per other threads, worth mentioning the huge rise in Italian men's tennis at the younger end:

There are 23 Italians in the top 250, the most of any country.

Italy has the clear all-out best junior player - young Sinner is born 2001, currently ATP 137.

Plus other 2001 juniors ranked ATP 470 and 672

PLUS, way more impressively, a lad born 2003 (!!!) who is ATP 495.

Plus approx. 10 junior players ranked in the 1000-2000 range or so.

Jim Courrier puts most of this down to the big investment in low-end tournaments (LTA, take note !!!!!!!!!)

"Courier compared it [the new Oracle system] to the system in Italy, which added many lower-level tournaments in recent years.

It allows players to play at low cost at home, and youve seen a big surge in young Italian mens players, Courier said.



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Thursday 5th of September 2019 07:11:49 AM

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