Week 34 - US Open, Women's Qualifying Singles, New York, USA - Hard

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Week 34 - US Open, Women's Qualifying Singles, New York, USA - Hard

the addict · Tennis legend

Haven't seen it reported elsewhere, but Stu Fraser reports in The Times that Katie Swan was injured for her QR1 match

"Swan out for a month

It is not the best of times for British tennis players named Katie. A 6-3, 6-3 defeat for Katie Swan by Katrina Scott, a 15-year-old American junior ranked No 1,042, in the first round of US Open qualifying had some of her supporters speculating whether she was injured, and confirmation of this has now come. The 20-year-old will be out of action for a month because of an issue with her left foot."

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Regarding the LL situation, was just checking to see what happened last year. Brengle and Barthel got in a few days after Qs had finished after Kumkhum and Buzarnescu withdrew much later - so that option could also be available with even later withdrawals, and with the men, Polansky (remember the career LL grand slam, haha) and Sonego got in the same days as quals finished, so I assume that will be the case here - Mahut and Bemelmens also got in later after further late withdrawals.

Wimbledon also had 3 LLs on the women's side this year and selected their 5 highest ranked FQR losers and then randomly drew them in order - so it was Davis, McHale and Bouzkova in the top 3 (can't remember what order) who all got in as the 3 LLs, and then Blinkova was 4th and Rybakina 5th, and had there have been any more withdrawals (which there wasn't) then that would have been the order that they got in - so I'm not sure if that is part of the Grand Slam rule book and would also apply here, or if that was specific to Wimbledon. I hope it applies here as it seems the most fair - 3 get in and then the other 2 know eactly where they stand.

emmsie69 · Top national player

Ace Ventura wrote:
Regarding the LL situation, was just checking to see what happened last year. Brengle and Barthel got in a few days after Qs had finished after Kumkhum and Buzarnescu withdrew much later - so that option could also be available with even later withdrawals, and with the men, Polansky (remember the career LL grand slam, haha) and Sonego got in the same days as quals finished, so I assume that will be the case here - Mahut and Bemelmens also got in later after further late withdrawals.

Wimbledon also had 3 LLs on the women's side this year and selected their 5 highest ranked FQR losers and then randomly drew them in order - so it was Davis, McHale and Bouzkova in the top 3 (can't remember what order) who all got in as the 3 LLs, and then Blinkova was 4th and Rybakina 5th, and had there have been any more withdrawals (which there wasn't) then that would have been the order that they got in - so I'm not sure if that is part of the Grand Slam rule book and would also apply here, or if that was specific to Wimbledon. I hope it applies here as it seems the most fair - 3 get in and then the other 2 know eactly where they stand.

I'm going for a Harriet win, Wang can worry about the LL spot

the addict · Tennis legend

Ace Ventura wrote:
Regarding the LL situation, was just checking to see what happened last year. Brengle and Barthel got in a few days after Qs had finished after Kumkhum and Buzarnescu withdrew much later - so that option could also be available with even later withdrawals, and with the men, Polansky (remember the career LL grand slam, haha) and Sonego got in the same days as quals finished, so I assume that will be the case here - Mahut and Bemelmens also got in later after further late withdrawals.

Wimbledon also had 3 LLs on the women's side this year and selected their 5 highest ranked FQR losers and then randomly drew them in order - so it was Davis, McHale and Bouzkova in the top 3 (can't remember what order) who all got in as the 3 LLs, and then Blinkova was 4th and Rybakina 5th, and had there have been any more withdrawals (which there wasn't) then that would have been the order that they got in - so I'm not sure if that is part of the Grand Slam rule book and would also apply here, or if that was specific to Wimbledon. I hope it applies here as it seems the most fair - 3 get in and then the other 2 know eactly where they stand.

The Grand Slab rulebook isn't clear on what happens when additional LL places become available. but it is certainly drawn from two more than the places available at the time. Interesting to surmise what would happen of someone withdrew at the last minute from a match scheduled late on the second day of the first round.

Andy Parker · Club Coach

I think if someone withdraws late on in the first round that the Lucky Loser still takes the spot, as whoever is next reserve is expected to be on call until the first round is completed - there have been instances of that happening in the later matches of first rounds in the past at Grand Slams, but don't ask me to recall names and dates. In doubles though I don't think they are as strict; it seems that if there are a rash of withdrawals, that they then allow players through to the next round, probably as they rapidly run out of reserves still available to play.

I can remember quite a few Wimbledons from many years ago, where the number of withdrawals from the doubles became ridiculous, as bad weather decimated the event, and by the first Thursday, they were still attempting to play first round singles matches, so players in the doubles were dropping like flies, as players in the singles didn't fancy a huge amount of back to back matches.

Incidentally as King of Typos, I much prefer the Grand Slab rulebook to the Grand Slam rulebook - makes me think of something a bit Egyptian, for the lackeys to bring in a great ancient stone slab, for those elderly priests of the rules to consult what the ancient stones say the rules are!! Mind you some of those running Wimbledon were probably alive in the ancient Egyptian era.

the addict · Tennis legend

Lol, ever since I changed my laptop I have made numerous typos, and however much I proof read quite a lot still get through !

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

At least you didn't type 'stroming' for 'storming' twice in the same paragraph, ha. I swear something has changed for me these past couple of weeks - I'm sure there was some kind of spell check when on here in the past, but that seems to have vanished, and it's the same for other sites too.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Play underway after a near two hour delay, so Harriet will be on later than originally expected.

Edit - Doesn't affect Harriet, but the first player to come through quals is 17 year old Wang Xinyu, in under an hour - let's hope she's the only Wang X to do so today. A couple of seeds like Badosa and Martincova have dropped their first sets.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Friday 23rd of August 2019 05:39:25 PM

the addict · Tennis legend

Rybakina is through so tht's one out of the way. Badosa has levelled it, and is 3-3 in the final set. None of the other top seeds on court yet.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Badosa out, so she will definitely be one of the 5 in the pot, and joining the Babos/Lepchenko loser as 2 ahead of Harriet in the pecking order. Martincova has levelled up and is 3-2* in the decider, but Hon has lost her first set - Harriet is ranked below both of those, so both of them losing would be a blow for her chances.

Martincova through in 3, so that's one of the closer looking ones on paper out of the way as well.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Friday 23rd of August 2019 07:06:31 PM

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Chung has just beaten M Ymer is the men's section, so that's both matches on Harriet's court complete, so she should be on soon.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Harriet underway, had 2 individual BPs, but couldn't convert either. *0-1

Seeded Hon is out, so that's another ahead of her in the rankings - guaranteed to be at least 3, so the LL back door path is closing a bit.

PaulM · Tennis legend

Harriet has two break points, but only because Wang doubles on deuce twice. Both saved.

Jeez this Chinese girl is good. Hits a bigger ball than her also scarily talented namesake who demolished Ruse earlier. And nice lefty serve. But the less solid of the two.

Harriet goes from 0-30 to 40-30 to having to save two break points.

1-1*

Big Chinese support in the crowd.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Both Wang's have really big support teams, so it's probably a lot of those in the corwd. If they both do carry on their trajectory then it's an absolute dream for the WTA given the direction the tour is going, and both will be big factors in the post New York Chinese Swing, where there are about 10 events.

Still at 1-1, lenghty game here.

Ah, a break for Harriet!