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Tie Break to decide it....can Liam make it?

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Got to 6-5* deuce but it's a final set TB ...

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L32:  (ITF) Lloyd Glasspool WR 387 vs Lucky Loser (*)

(*) presumably either Gómez or the local qWC, Taha Baadi.  I hope he makes it count (it should have been the 14th seed, Viktor Troicki!

L32:  (ITF) Lloyd Glasspool WR 387 vs (LL) Taha Baadi (CAN) UNR

L32:  (LL) Alejandro Gómez (COL) WR 543 vs (Q) Liam Broady WR 272

Let's hope Liam can serve up a repeat of his FQR win (2 & 3) to progress to the last 16. 

 A lot of the time when the LL meets the FQR winner,the LL ends up winning second time around. 

Fortunately, Liam was able to buck the trend - eventually:

L32:  (Q) Liam Broady WR 272 defeated (LL) Alejandro Gómez (COL) WR 543 by 6-3 2-6 7-6(5)  smile

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L16:  (Q) Liam Broady WR 272 vs (4) Malek Jaziri (TUN) WR 99 (CH = 42 in January)



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Yay to the "W" for Liam ( and Bob ! )

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Good to see Liam get over the line.

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Yay to the "W" for Liam ( and Bob ! )

Phew.



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Lloyd *4-2 up against the Canadian Baadi.

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Great battling performances; hopefully confidence-building.

Will this improve his ranking?

I'm remembering that he won a round of USO qualies, last year.



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Great battling performances; hopefully confidence-building.

Will this improve his ranking?

I'm remembering that he won a round of USO qualies, last year.

Not a lot.  He only gets an additional 3 points for this R2 win.  Bit of a travesty really.

He is currently 258 in the rankings.



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Lloyd wins the 1st set 6-3

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L32:  (Q) Liam Broady WR 272 defeated (LL) Alejandro Gómez (COL) WR 543 by 6-3 2-6 7-6(5)  smile

 

One of those matches where the defeated player actually won a couple more points than the victor.  Shame

 



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 Its really not as bad as they say :)
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A bit easier for Lloyd:

L32:  (ITF) Lloyd Glasspool WR 387 defeated (LL) Taha Baadi (CAN) UNR by 3 & 2

Berankis (1) in the last 16?



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Bob in Spain wrote:
Ian1314 wrote:

Great battling performances; hopefully confidence-building.

Will this improve his ranking?

I'm remembering that he won a round of USO qualies, last year.

Not a lot.  He only gets an additional 3 points for this R2 win.  Bit of a travesty really.

He is currently 258 in the rankings.

 Most confusing thing to me with this reorganised challengers to 48 men draws. Win round 1 5 points beat a seeded player in round 2 only an extra 3. Surely this need to be looked at.



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Madadman wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
Ian1314 wrote:

Great battling performances; hopefully confidence-building.

Will this improve his ranking?

I'm remembering that he won a round of USO qualies, last year.

Not a lot.  He only gets an additional 3 points for this R2 win.  Bit of a travesty really.

He is currently 258 in the rankings.

 Most confusing thing to me with this reorganised challengers to 48 men draws. Win round 1 5 points beat a seeded player in round 2 only an extra 3. Surely this need to be looked at.

I agree.  I have raised this point a couple of times, including earlier in this thread.  I also tweeted the ATP today to ask for their comment on the reasoning.  No response of course, but my tweet did get a "like" from a certain Liam Broady. smile



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Ha, good stuff, Bob.

I was just jokingly saying In my earlier post that it was time the ATP answered you, not knowing that you actually had tweeted / were going to tweet them.

Still think they've lazily just chucked in the Q points from the old 32 man draws as the R1 win points in the 48 draw and left the rest unchanged, never mind the resulting illogicality.

And while a Challenger 100 goes 5, 8, 18 a Challenger 80 ( again just using the previous Q points as the R1 win points ) goes 3, 7, 15 ... So more additional points for winning R2 in an 80 as against a 100 ( 4 vs 3 ).

Gee, just needed some common sense adjustments. Try it - better late than never.



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