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Love the coloured graph, Aberdee

02/08/21

Top 300 and main upward movers

27 (=) Dan Evans
29 (=) Cameron Norrie (CH)
94 (-9) Kyle Edmund
105 (=) Andy Murray
143 (=) Liam Broady
219 (=) Jay Clarke
257 (=) Jack Draper (age 19)

348 (+8) James Ward
388 (+4) Anton Matusevich (age 20) (CH)
416 (+27) Aidan McHugh (age 21) (CH)

913 (+16) Toby Martin

1280 (+68) Dan Little (CH)



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I see the rankings go back to the normal counting method after 22nd august. That will shake things up!

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Only 2 guys in the top 100 now....

Welcome to the rankings to Giamcomo, though

09/08/21

Top 300 and main upward movers

26 (+1) Dan Evans
29 (=) Cameron Norrie (CH)
102 (-8) Kyle Edmund
105 (=) Andy Murray
146 (-3) Liam Broady
219 (=) Jay Clarke
258 (-1) Jack Draper (age 19)

414 (+2) Aidan McHugh (age 21) (CH)

1083 (+32) Julian Cash

1855 - NEW IN - Giacomo Revelli (age 19)

 

Edited because the ATP site was wrong and has now been revised (see Indy's explanations below) 



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 9th of August 2021 07:12:04 PM

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09/08/21

A lot of little ticks up in the doubles (Joe +1 to 8, Neal +2 to 14, and so on, all the way down the 9 guys in the top 100)

Cam is +23 to 140, getting close to the top 100, to make it a round 10

Elsewhere, Charlie Broom is +139 at 1013

And welcome to George Millington (age 20) who gets an ATP dubs ranking for the first time, at 1993 (in only his first event and with a slight streak of luck, as they won their first round in the 25k by retirement, but who cares? )



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Edit to my original below, so no longer aoplicable : The ATP have revised/sorted their rankings to now count 50% of Montreal 2019 rather than wipe it all. Kyle for instance has been revised to WR 102 on 801 points rather than WR 104 on 778 points.

 

I was expecting the 09/08 ATP rankings to have taken off 50% of the 2019 Montreal Masters points ( live-tennis and OER were working to the same assumption ), to be retained for a "better of" comparison with Toronto 2021, and players' "activity" shows it now counting as 50% of the original points. 

But both for singles and doubles, in the actual new rankings Montreal 2019 has been wiped completely.

eg. Kyle scored 45 points, his "activity" now shows 23 points but it doesn't appear at all in his ranking breakdown and he has dropped 45 points. So he on 778 points rather than OER's projected 801 points ( live-tennis has adjusted in line with the apparently official ATP figures ). 

The ATP have said they are moving back to 52 week rankings from this year's Cincinnatti on, so presumably from then on full 2019 and 2020 points will come off on their anniversaries, but re these Montreal points -  confuse



-- Edited by indiana on Monday 9th of August 2021 05:27:25 PM



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Coup Droit wrote:

A new CH for Cam but only 2 guys in the top 100 now....

Welcome to the rankings to Giamcomo, though

09/08/21

Top 300 and main upward movers

27 (=) Dan Evans
28 (+1) Cameron Norrie (CH)
104 (-10) Kyle Edmund
105 (=) Andy Murray
146 (-3) Liam Broady
219 (=) Jay Clarke
258 (-1) Jack Draper (age 19)

414 (+2) Aidan McHugh (age 21) (CH)

1083 (+32) Julian Cash

1855 - NEW IN - Giacomo Revelli (age 19)


 With the ATP having now sorted their slight Montreal 2019 botch-up, as per my previous post, Dan is now WR 26 (+1), Cam WR 29 (=) so no new CH, and Kyle WR 102 (-8).



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09/08/21

A lot of little ticks up in the doubles (Joe +1 to 8, Neal +2 to 14, and so on, all the way down the 9 guys in the top 100)

Cam is +23 to 140, getting close to the top 100, to make it a round 10

Elsewhere, Charlie Broom is +139 at 1013

And welcome to George Millington (age 20) who gets an ATP dubs ranking for the first time, at 1993 (in only his first event and with a slight streak of luck, as they won their first round in the 25k by retirement, but who cares? )


 Again, with the revised ATP rankings, Joe remains WR 9 rather than +1. Remainder seems to stand. 



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Thanks, Indy. Blinkin' tech people at ATP - why can't they get it right straight off?....

I've changed my original post so it'll be right if ever anyone looks back at it.



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Of course, I updated my predictions spreadsheets this morning, so I'll have to go through it all again

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Lucky I had seen the temporary wrong rankings, CD, or it might have looked like you were inventing things

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the addict wrote:

Of course, I updated my predictions spreadsheets this morning, so I'll have to go through it all again


 It's just very small chnges to Dan, Cam and Kyle's rankings so you might feel it's not worth redoing? 



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indiana wrote:
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Of course, I updated my predictions spreadsheets this morning, so I'll have to go through it all again


 It's just very small chnges to Dan, Cam and Kyle's rankings so you might feel it's not worth redoing? 


 Only because I was hoping to post new tables after Montreal / Toronto. It only takes 10 mins for each though.



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Assuming it doesn't get changed again (it makes some sense to wait a day or two, but then it seems like 'old news' - and, mind you, the ATP are nowhere near as bad as the ITF who change the juniors table about three times during the week - it's blinkin ridiculous)...

In the top 500 (only 14 of them, including a couple of interlopers) Aidan is the man of the week, breaking into the top 400, with a new CH
Outside, Jack PJ (born 2003) moved up to a new CH at 936. And nice to see Luke Johnson (age 27) with a new CH too.

16/08/21

Top 500 and main upward movers

29 (-2) Dan Evans
31 (-2) Cameron Norrie
102 (=) Kyle Edmund
105 (=) Andy Murray
147 (-1) Liam Broady
219 (=) Jay Clarke
271 (-13) Jack Draper (age 19)
348 (-2) James Ward
352 (+1) Ryan Peniston
387 (+27) Aidan McHugh (age 21) CH
397 (-7) Anton Matusevich (age 20)
471 (+15) Paul Jubb (age 21)
472 (-77) Jan Choinski
477 (+4) Brydan Klein

668 (+12) Luke Johnson CH
912 (+6) Toby Martin
936 (+23) Jack Pinnington Jones (age 18) CH
1018 (+65) Julian Cash



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 16th of August 2021 06:11:13 AM

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In doubles, it's Joe's week
Into the top 5 at world number 4

Top 100 and major upward movers:

16/08/21

4 (+5) Joe Salisbury CH
15 (-1) Neal Skupski
22 (-1) Jamie Murray
56 (+4) Dan Evans
58 (-1) Luke Bambridge
61 (=) Ken Skupski
63 (=) Dom Inglot
76 (-1) Jonny O'Mara
91 (-1) Lloyd Glasspool

780(+52) Julian Cash
923 (+90) Charles Broom
1062 (+31) Josh Paris


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Coup Droit wrote:

In doubles, it's Joe's week
Into the top 5 at world number 4

Top 100 and major upward movers:

16/08/21

4 (+5) Joe Salisbury CH
15 (-1) Neal Skupski
22 (-1) Jamie Murray
56 (+4) Dan Evans
58 (-1) Luke Bambridge
61 (=) Ken Skupski
63 (=) Dom Inglot
76 (-1) Jonny O'Mara
91 (-1) Lloyd Glasspool

780(+52) Julian Cash
923 (+90) Charles Broom
1062 (+31) Josh Paris


 Dom and Jonny seem to have a general downward trajectory currently, wonder how long Dom will keep going? Jonny seems to move around partners, I wonder if a stable partner is really what he needs.

With the news that Neal is pairing with Jack Sock in the next few weeks, I wonder if Ken will also bow out this season>  



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