Week 32 - ITF (W25) - Chiswick, Great Britain - Hard

Status Quo · Intermediate Club Player

Week 32 - ITF (W25) - Chiswick, Great Britain - Hard

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Status Quo wrote:
Just wonderful.

I know Ms. Murray loved her time in Evanston, but I've often wondered how high she might have gone had those years been spent in competition on the tour full-time.

Anyway, very well done indeed.

Or, indeed, how much lower she might have been if she'd spent that time on tour.

Great week, Sam. Glad married life suits. :)

Really pleased for her.

telstar · Strong Club Player

Michael D wrote:
There are two further interesting outcomes from Sam's result today... the first that these extra 20 pts will take her up to 175 pts and the cusp of the top 300. And the second is that will be good enough to lift her all the way to GB #9 displacing both Fran and Katy D, who will drop out of the top 10. How many people have Sam in their top 10 for this year?

Just the one person, I believe!

Babfive · Satellite level

Fantastic to see Sam win that one and take the title. biggrin

Jan · Hall of fame

Excellent!

goldfish · Futures qualifying

Brilliant win for Sam. Now is there any chance she could get anywhere near AO 20 qualifications?

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

goldfish wrote:
Brilliant win for Sam. Now is there any chance she could get anywhere near AO 20 qualifications?

Someone mentioned the other day about thar being an aim. It'll be tough, but could be a realistic target. She'll be circa #300 on 175 points when these points are added on. Katie S is currently live #230 on 249 points, and that's generally in and around where you want to be to sneak in. She has only played 11 events (so has 5 events of pure net gain) and only has 6 points coming off before the AO, and actually only 7 until mid May, so that just shows how well she has done these past 3 months, so therefore she'll need roughly 80 points before the end of the year. If she can stay fit and plays 6 or 7 events, including the Roehampton double header, and does well in a few, she'll have a chance, but it might be more likely for RG.

Mervatron2 · Challenger qualifying

Brilliant week for Sam.

Hopefully she can keep moving on up over the next few months.

goldfish · Futures qualifying

Ace Ventura wrote:
goldfish wrote:
Brilliant win for Sam. Now is there any chance she could get anywhere near AO 20 qualifications?
Someone mentioned the other day about thar being an aim. It'll be tough, but could be a realistic target. She'll be circa #300 on 175 points when these points are added on. Katie S is currently live #230 on 249 points, and that's generally in and around where you want to be to sneak in. She has only played 11 events (so has 5 events of pure net gain) and only has 6 points coming off before the AO, and actually only 7 until mid May, so that just shows how well she has done these past 3 months, so therefore she'll need roughly 80 points before the end of the year. If she can stay fit and plays 6 or 7 events, including the Roehampton double header, and does well in a few, she'll have a chance, but it might be more likely for RG.

Thanks Ace for this detailed reply.

RedSquirrel · Satellite level

As RG is still a 96 Q draw it is the most difficult to get into unless it increases to a 128 Q draw. You need to be ranked around 210 to get in most years. The AO is the easiest to get in as a few players don't travel because of costs or they haven't started their season yet. The cut off for the AO this year was 251, the first year for a 128 Q draw. Extrapolating the previous years AO cut offs for the 96 Q draw to a 128 Q draw WR240 would get you in nearly every year, WR250 would get you in at least half the time.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Ah, forgot about RG still being 96 RS - I really wish they would do away with that, especially if the men is 128 there and all the other slams are now 128 - why wouldn't you want to give more the chance to play? Both will therefore be as tough as each other - easier to get into AO, but less time to achieve the required points.

Considering the Israel W25 18 points will still be on her record by the time of the Wimbledon Q cut off point (according to OER anyway), then getting into Wimbledon quals directly should definitely be realistic, and if she manages to get inside the top 230 and in directly, then maybe, just maybe, the powers might give her a MDWC, although pushing 33 at the time will no doubt go against her, but worst case scenario would be she avoids the hassle of the pre quallie playoffs and open up another Q place for someone else, but it just shows what a great position she is in - 162 points gained since the end of May, even allowing for those 2 1 point 1st round exit counters, which will hopefully be replaced by next May.

Michael D · All-time great

goldfish wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
goldfish wrote:
Brilliant win for Sam. Now is there any chance she could get anywhere near AO 20 qualifications?
Someone mentioned the other day about thar being an aim. It'll be tough, but could be a realistic target. She'll be circa #300 on 175 points when these points are added on. Katie S is currently live #230 on 249 points, and that's generally in and around where you want to be to sneak in. She has only played 11 events (so has 5 events of pure net gain) and only has 6 points coming off before the AO, and actually only 7 until mid May, so that just shows how well she has done these past 3 months, so therefore she'll need roughly 80 points before the end of the year. If she can stay fit and plays 6 or 7 events, including the Roehampton double header, and does well in a few, she'll have a chance, but it might be more likely for RG.
Thanks Ace for this detailed reply.

The main variable with Sam is whether she keeps playing more consistently now, and doesn't have any injury problems to speak of too. Those 'only' 11 events you speak of indicate the relative paucity of tournaments she's played in over the last year. Telstar says only one player has her in their top ten for this year... I had her for last year, as she had done well end of 2017, but then last year, she just didn't play! I don't think it was all injury either, but her SF result in Chiswick this time last year, was one of very few tournaments she'd played until that point. I'm sure she can make AO qualifiers... if she plays a more regular schedule over the next few months. She undoubtedly has the ability, there's no doubt about that. But she's just got married, and those tournaments will require her to travel outside the UK, so it will be interesting to see what her choices now are.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Michael D wrote:
goldfish wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
goldfish wrote:
Brilliant win for Sam. Now is there any chance she could get anywhere near AO 20 qualifications?
Someone mentioned the other day about thar being an aim. It'll be tough, but could be a realistic target. She'll be circa #300 on 175 points when these points are added on. Katie S is currently live #230 on 249 points, and that's generally in and around where you want to be to sneak in. She has only played 11 events (so has 5 events of pure net gain) and only has 6 points coming off before the AO, and actually only 7 until mid May, so that just shows how well she has done these past 3 months, so therefore she'll need roughly 80 points before the end of the year. If she can stay fit and plays 6 or 7 events, including the Roehampton double header, and does well in a few, she'll have a chance, but it might be more likely for RG.
Thanks Ace for this detailed reply.
The main variable with Sam is whether she keeps playing more consistently now, and doesn't have any injury problems to speak of too. Those 'only' 11 events you speak of indicate the relative paucity of tournaments she's played in over the last year. Telstar says only one player has her in their top ten for this year... I had her for last year, as she had done well end of 2017, but then last year, she just didn't play! I don't think it was all injury either, but her SF result in Chiswick this time last year, was one of very few tournaments she'd played until that point. I'm sure she can make AO qualifiers... if she plays a more regular schedule over the next few months. She undoubtedly has the ability, there's no doubt about that. But she's just got married, and those tournaments will require her to travel outside the UK, so it will be interesting to see what her choices now are.

Considering Sam has married a top-50 professional tennis player, I think it's very unlikely she'll be playing Mrs-Her-Indoors and just be sitting at home in the UK !!!

I assume, however, she may well try and fit some of her events to his, or he'll try and fit some of his events to hers.

And from what I understood from TeamBath, all her stops and starts in the last couple of years have been purely injury related (although, as with everything, there may be other things too we don't know too, and all the better).

Michael D · All-time great

Coup Droit wrote:
Michael D wrote:

The main variable with Sam is whether she keeps playing more consistently now, and doesn't have any injury problems to speak of too. Those 'only' 11 events you speak of indicate the relative paucity of tournaments she's played in over the last year. Telstar says only one player has her in their top ten for this year... I had her for last year, as she had done well end of 2017, but then last year, she just didn't play! I don't think it was all injury either, but her SF result in Chiswick this time last year, was one of very few tournaments she'd played until that point. I'm sure she can make AO qualifiers... if she plays a more regular schedule over the next few months. She undoubtedly has the ability, there's no doubt about that. But she's just got married, and those tournaments will require her to travel outside the UK, so it will be interesting to see what her choices now are.
Considering Sam has married a top-50 professional tennis player, I think it's very unlikely she'll be playing Mrs-Her-Indoors and just be sitting at home in the UK !!!
I assume, however, she may well try and fit some of her events to his, or he'll try and fit some of his events to hers.
And from what I understood from TeamBath, all her stops and starts in the last couple of years have been purely injury related (although, as with everything, there may be other things too we don't know too, and all the better).

Yes, I know she's married a pro CD, but as you indicate that potentially makes her scheduling more complicated not less so, since he cannot just follow her, and with the differences in the types of tournaments each is likely to be entering over the next few months, there will be tricky choices to be made.

Well, it's going to be interesting to see just what her schedule is, but sounds positive if she has made AO qualies a goal, since that's definitely achievable for her.

Michael D · All-time great

On her schedule just to note that Sam is in fact entered into the W25 MD in China for next week, and the week after (26/8) is 3rd alt thus far for the W60 in China.