Week 31 - ITF (W25) Woking, Great Britain Hard

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

RE: Week 31 - ITF (W25) Woking, Great Britain Hard

the addict · Tennis legend

Doubles Quarter final results

Sarah Beth GREY (GBR)/Eden SILVA (GBR) CR347 (177+170) [1] "defeated" Gabriella DA SILVA FICK (AUS)/Magali KEMPEN (BEL) UNR (476+UNR/344) WALKOVER
Freya CHRISTIE (GBR)/Samantha MURRAY (GBR) CR455 (198+257) [3] def Greta ARN (HUN)/Qinwen ZHENG (CHN) (UNR+UNR) 6-4 6-3

Aleksandra PITAK (GBR)/Katarzyna PITAK (GBR) CR 1886 (943+943) LOST TO Vivian HEISEN (GER) [4]/Diana MARCINKEVICA (LAT) CR370 (224+146) [4] 2-6 3-6
Ali COLLINS (GBR)/Joanna GARLAND (TPE) UNR (UNR/562+UNR/84) LOST TO Naiktha BAINS (GBR) / Ankita RAINA (IND) CR381 (175+206) [2] 2-6 2-6

Semi-finals

Sarah Beth GREY (GBR)/Eden SILVA (GBR) CR347 (177+170) [1] v Freya CHRISTIE (GBR)/Samantha MURRAY (GBR) CR455 (198+257) [3]
Vivian HEISEN (GER) [4]/Diana MARCINKEVICA (LAT) CR370 (224+146) [4] v Naiktha BAINS (GBR) / Ankita RAINA (IND) CR381 (175+206) [2]

indiana · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
the addict wrote:
Doubles

Beth and Eden get a W/O into the semi-final. Two other matches on court now, with the Pitak's to follow.

(Sorry Ace, I've been following some of these girls progress in doubles for a few years, so always keeping an eye on the scores)
And so we will have either three or four British players in the doubles final. Which is very nice and welcome

Either 2 or 3 I believe unless you know something about current peskies

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Yes, guilty of over-enthusiasm :::(((

telstar · Strong Club Player

the addict wrote:
Doubles Quarter final results

Sarah Beth GREY (GBR)/Eden SILVA (GBR) CR347 (177+170) [1] "defeated" Gabriella DA SILVA FICK (AUS)/Magali KEMPEN (BEL) UNR (476+UNR/344) WALKOVER
Freya CHRISTIE (GBR)/Samantha MURRAY (GBR) CR455 (198+257) [3] def Greta ARN (HUN)/Qinwen ZHENG (CHN) (UNR+UNR) 6-4 6-3

Aleksandra PITAK (GBR)/Katarzyna PITAK (GBR) CR 1886 (943+943) LOST TO Vivian HEISEN (GER) [4]/Diana MARCINKEVICA (LAT) CR370 (224+146) [4] 2-6 3-6
Ali COLLINS (GBR)/Joanna GARLAND (TPE) UNR (UNR/562+UNR/84) LOST TO Naiktha BAINS (GBR) / Ankita RAINA (IND) CR381 (175+206) [2] 2-6 2-6

Semi-finals

Sarah Beth GREY (GBR)/Eden SILVA (GBR) CR347 (177+170) [1] v Freya CHRISTIE (GBR)/Samantha MURRAY (GBR) CR455 (198+257) [3]
Vivian HEISEN (GER) [4]/Diana MARCINKEVICA (LAT) CR370 (224+146) [4] v Naiktha BAINS (GBR) / Ankita RAINA (IND) CR381 (175+206) [2]

So the four seeded pairs have reached the semis. This often seems to happen whilst it is very rare in singles. Does anyone have any views about why this should be?

the addict · Tennis legend

To some extent you'll find two or more regular doubles pairs competing at these events plus some scratch partnerships. The top three seeds here are regular partnerships, and the fourth seeds played together in Latvia in the WTA event last week. So the regular are likely to have a better CR anyway and be seeded. The other pairs sometimes win through, but the regulars do tend to make the semis most of the time. Upsets are much less frequent, unless somene is carrying an injury.

Peter too · Tennis legend

R2: BLAKE, Angelica (GBR) WC UNR lost to KERKHOVE, Lesley (NED) 1 182 1-6 4-6
R2: GREY, Sarah Beth (GBR) 527 def CHRISTIE, Freya (GBR) Q 579 6-4 2-6 6-2

QF: GREY, Sarah Beth (GBR) 527 v KERKHOVE, Lesley (NED) 1 182 CH=149 16/10/17

-- Edited by Peter too on Friday 2nd of August 2019 11:48:34 PM

the addict · Tennis legend

I see you are using live rankings Peter rather than official rankings.

Beth is officially WR527 but has a massive drop due to points off this week, before climbing back some way when this weeks points go on.

the addict · Tennis legend

Live scores acting up, but from the stats I see that Beth is *2-3. No breaks so far, but both players have had break points.

DF · Tennis legend

Beth is a set down 3-6 and already a break down in the second

the addict · Tennis legend

Beth broke back for *3-3, but has just been broken again. Only 4 breaks in the match so far - compared to the other QF on court where both players struggled to hold serve - only 2 holds in 12 games.

the addict · Tennis legend

QF: GREY, Sarah Beth (GBR) 527 LOST TO KERKHOVE, Lesley (NED) 1 182 3-6 3-6

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

It was always going to be a tough ask, she was 5/1 pre match and although she didn't play a singles match until late Feb, if you look at all of her wins in 2019, we're into August and she has 6 - 654, 493, 736, 695, and then the 2 lower ranked qualifiers she beat this week*, so to go from that to beat the top seed, a circa 200 player, was a tall ask.

That was why I was fairly negative yesterday with how the week had panned out. Angelica was quite interesting, and although Freya has struggled for a while, she is still just 21 (Beth is 24 next week) and has obviously been in the top 300 before and has more weapons, so I was hoping she would have beaten Beth to maybe spark something, as although it could be a lost cause, I still think there is and can be more upside. That said, she obviously wasn't good enough to beat Beth on the day, and it was Beth who (I assume without watching) deservedly made the QF, but pretty much any real excitement had gone for me. Someone like Gabi, Freya, Angelica, or even one of the other younger players, being the last one standing would have been more interesting from my POV.

*In some ways I am kind of contradicting myself with the Freya reference, bigging her up a bit in the 2nd paragraph, but dismissing the win in the first, but at this moment in time, Freya isn't really a stand out win and her current ranking is in line with those other wins.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Yes, I understand your dilemma - another way of reading your post is 'what a disappointment Naithka's first round match was'.....

My own view is that Beth could be top-400, no problem, top 350 too, maybe even top-300. But Freya could be top-200, even top-150 say.

So well done to Beth, a good week, and a decent score against the top seed. And good luck to her and Eden in the doubles (as well as the others)

But as you say, a really un-exciting run on results (as before, Angelica beating Mandy on hard doesn't really have much impact, in my book).

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Yes, I understand your dilemma - another way of reading your post is 'what a disappointment Naithka's first round match was'.....

My own view is that Beth could be top-400, no problem, top 350 too, maybe even top-300. But Freya could be top-200, even top-150 say.

So well done to Beth, a good week, and a decent score against the top seed. And good luck to her and Eden in the doubles (as well as the others)

But as you say, a really un-exciting run on results (as before, Angelica beating Mandy on hard doesn't really have much impact, in my book).

Ha, to be honest, I was actually quite pleased Freya won that - I thought great, beat Beth and then even if she goes down to Kerkhove in a similar manner to Beth today, then that will be an encouraging week and something to build on for next week and the rest of the season, but in hindsight, yes, it would have been better for Naiktha to have won, as while we both have doubts over her ceiling, she is ranked where she is and has had some decent wins since her switch like Bolsova, GGP and even Liu (even if the match sounded awful), so would have been the more realistic player of the trio to have had an extended run, given she is about 300 places higher than the next highest.

While I do generally want Brits to be as good as they can be, I don't really see it as 'a Brit is a Brit' and a 'win is a win', and will normally always have my preferred outcome in a GB vs GB match. This did remind me of a conversation almost a year ago when I was gutted that Naomi beat Katie B in the US Open Q1 and referred to it as feeling a bit like a pesky win, given Katie was like 2nd or 3rd seed and a lot younger and promising, and Naomi had won about 3 matches in 6 months and massively going the other way.

https://britishtennis.activeboard.com/t64884828/week-34-us-open-qualifying/?page=3&sort=oldestFirst

Halfway down that page. I remembered someone replying and mentioning 'Stockport's finest', and turns out it was you biggrin , but it did result in a good exchange and a few sharing their opinions.

I mean good luck to Beth and it would be great if she could go as far as you think she could, and if she doesn't get in directly next week and wants to avoid the Qs, then I'd definitely give her a Chiswick MDWC after making the QF here.