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Post Info TOPIC: Weeks 27 & 28 - The Championships, Wimbledon, Great Britain - Grass


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Weeks 27 & 28 - The Championships, Wimbledon, Great Britain - Grass


Fantastic draws for the Brits - all of them have a real chance, and we couldn't have asked for much more than that. With all the Brits bar Heather in the top half, and the likes of Sharapova and Anisimova there too, the Tuesday line up looks much better for me than Monday's - hoping (as always) that everything doesn't clash, paricularly Harriet, Katie and Anisimova, which are the three I am most hoping to see. Weather looking good for the first week - great for anyone who wants to see it live. Mind you the last time we had a scorcher, I remember being violently sick (too much sun) on the first day, but I'd still take that over rain.



-- Edited by Andy Parker on Friday 28th of June 2019 11:45:06 AM

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As the ultimate pessimist looking at this draw there is no way that Johanna Konta is going to come anywhere near the final. Unfortunately can see an early round defeat far more likely.



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ROSAMUND wrote:

As the ultimate pessimist looking at this draw there is no way that Johanna Konta is going to come anywhere near the final. Unfortunately can see an early round defeat far more likely.


On paper, I think it's a very fair draw to make the latter stages.

She shouldn't be worried about any of the potential 3 opponents in the opening 2 rounds, if she is, then she'll never have a chance going far. Then it is potentially Stephens in R3, who is the highest ranked seed she could have faced at this stage, but at the same time, Sloane has played 3 matches on grass since 2016, and has lost them all. I'd rather have had a Wang Qiang as the 9-16 seed, but it's still winnable, especially with Jo beating her just a few weeks ago on another huge stage. If Kvitova plays and is firing, then a potential L16 match is obviously tough, and she will be clear 2nd favourite there, but if Petra withdraws (possible), or crashes out early like last year (1st round) then there's an opening, and even then, after watching Bertens on the grass today and this week, that is a different Bertens to had it have been on clay or hard if that was a potential QF.

I don't think she will make the semi final again, but if she did, whoever she got would be extremely tough as that quarter is absolutely ridiculous - Barty, Kerber, Serena, Bencic, Goerges, Vekic. Not to mention Muguruza, Sharapova, Riske etc. - imagine how you would feel had her 19 seed swapped with 18 Goerges, and she ended up in the first quarter.

I'd initially just like to see some representation by Saturday (which will be more than last year), and it's a good enough early draw for that to happen, and then just see what happens after that.



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For what it's worth:

Dart 1/1 vs McHale 4/5
Watson 6/5 v McNally 4/6
Swan 11/10 vs Siegemund 8/11

So all 3 are actually slight underdogs, Heather the least likely on paper, but then they are all WCs, or at least were all initial WCs, so to see those type of odds is very encouraging, certainly better than some of the odds last year when some were facing Muguruza, Ka Pliskova and co.

Konta is 1/9 to beat 11/2 Bogdan. I'd be happy with Konta and one other, but if we can get 2 of the other 3 through, that would be great.

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Really surprised by those odds - Konta is a dead cert for sure, but with home advantage, I would have expected Dart and Watson to be favourites, and I haven't given up on Katie S either. Let's hope the bookies are wrong - they didn't get it right for Sam in the qualies and are as fallible as the rest of us. Very interesting to see those odds though - thanks Ace. I fancy a bet on Katie S now, or maybe even a treble for the Brits.

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I think I'd pick Sloane Stephens as an opponent over Qiang Wang. At least Jo has a winning record over Sloane whereas she suffered a heavy defeat in Miami against Wang and had had an earlier defeat against her in 2016.Hopes she plays better than her last match against Jabeur.



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Got to be happy with those draws overall.

Hoping for at least 2 wins 3 is very realistic.

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Andy Parker wrote:

Really surprised by those odds - Konta is a dead cert for sure, but with home advantage, I would have expected Dart and Watson to be favourites, and I haven't given up on Katie S either. Let's hope the bookies are wrong - they didn't get it right for Sam in the qualies and are as fallible as the rest of us. Very interesting to see those odds though - thanks Ace. I fancy a bet on Katie S now, or maybe even a treble for the Brits.


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I think I'd pick Sloane Stephens as an opponent over Qiang Wang. At least Jo has a winning record over Sloane whereas she suffered a heavy defeat in Miami against Wang and had had an earlier defeat against her in 2016.Hopes she plays better than her last match against Jabeur.


But Wang's ranking and seeding does feel really heavily inflated thanks to her amazing, completely out of the blue, run in China at the back end of last year which is so out of line with the rest of her career. She's 27 and has never been into the 4th round of any slam, ever, and was ranked 91 just 13 months ago. She's also only 43rd in the race despite playing a fairly full schedule, and being a high seed in most of her 12 tournaments. That 43 also includes the 215 points for Miami which you referenced where her run was - bye, Konta, walkover, Yafan - so she got 215 of her 750 points this year for beating 2 players who were ranked 38 and 50 at the time. She also doesn't play many matches on grass.

Appreciate the inferior head to head, although it is only 2 matches, but Wang really does seem to be a 35-45 player with a lofty current ranking and an ideal relatively high seed to draw - it'll be interesting to see where she is after the Asian Swing this year, as she has a ridiculous amount of points to defend. That said, her initial draw here is actually quite kind, so she could actually match her seeding and get into the last 16 for the first time. Her 1st round opponent Lapko has been almost a walking bye throughout 2019.



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First round draw in full:

R128: Harriet DART (GBR) 170 vs Christina McHALE (USA) [LL] 109 (CH:24 Aug 12)
R128: Katie SWAN (GBR) [WC] 207 vs Laura SIEGEMUND (GER) 84 (CH:27 Aug 16)
R128: Johanna KONTA (GBR) [19] 19 vs Ana BOGDAN (ROU) [Q] 134 (CH:59 June 18)
R128: Heather WATSON (GBR) [WC] 122 vs Catherine McNALLY (USA) [Q] 164=CH 17yrs (JCH:6 March 19)

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The Harriet v Chrissy odds seem the most surprising to me.

Chrissy was playing pretty poorly at Wimbly qualis- got trounced by Juvan and only just won her QR2 match.

But, yes, to have Caty McNally as favourite against Hev also seems a bit weird.

The other two odds seems OK to me.

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McNally is no mug on grass and has come through qualies. Heather has no form. Not surprised to see McNally as a favourite.

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McNally is no mug on grass and has come through qualies. Heather has no form. Not surprised to see McNally as a favourite.


Oh, yes, I agree that McNally is playing very well. I only saw ten minutes here and there but it was very solid.

However, given the rankings, the ages and experience, it's still a match where I think the odds are slightly wrongly skewed. 



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Jo played Bogdan earlier this year on the clay of Rabat and won 6-1 6-7(6) 6-2 so it should be an interesting comparison between Jo's form on clay and on grass.

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So could have been a lot worse for both Womens and Mens biggrin

 



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