General football thread

indiana · Tennis legend

General football thread

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Had the pleasure of going to watch England U20s vs Australia yesterday. It was all a bit one sided and the 3-0 victory could easily have been 7 or 8.

A few names on show. Liam Delap from Man City and Carney Chukwuemeka from Chelsea being the two best known although both were held back and came on as late subs. Best player on the park was a lad from Bristol City called Alex Scott despite him missing a penalty.

www.englandfootball.com/articles/2022/Sep/27/england-mu20s-australia-pinatar-match-report-20222709

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Manuel Luis Pellegrini Ripamonti Football manager Formerly of 8 Rappax Road, Hale, Altrincham, WA15 0NT and 7 York Drive, Bowdon, Altrincham, WA14 3HF 6 Apr 2014 to 5 Apr 2017 defaulted tax £816,579.80 penalties levied £343,728.07

www.gov.uk/government/publications/publishing-details-of-deliberate-tax-defaulters-pddd/current-list-of-deliberate-tax-defaulters

An interesting list to go through that is publicly published (names , addresses and occupation all made transparently public to name and shame).

Ex City manager , Pellegrini, defaulted on paying over £800k tax and a susbsequent £300k penalty. £1.1m in total. Presumably left the country.

Ex Liverpool and Leicester player, Emile Heskey listed as well but much lower sums. One person I know (from local news) as well on the list.

Spireman · Strong Club Player

Looking forward to MOTD tonight!!!!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Just got back from FA Cup at Bradford where my Harrogate Town team won a local derby 1-0. Great win as we played well and havent been playing well this season; Ive not been to an away match before but the atmosphere was crackling. Bradfords stadium was only maybe 1/3rd full with just under 7000 there, we had around 500 fans and well deserved a good win. Onwards !

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Town drew Solihull or Hartlepool in round 2. Either way, a banana skin in waiting. I think they said 19 non league teams in the round 2 draw, realise a lot are still in round one replays, but its a decent number.

seagull · Hall of fame

Have to say as a supporter VAR is really tarnishing the experience of attending matches. Was at Wolves on Saturday and referee did not see handball from Dunk (Probably because it didn't touch him). No one really appealed and if game carried on no one would have thought twice. We were in line with it and saw nothing. You then get 2 minutes waiting in bewilderment as to what is going on as they watch the incident over and over again to see if there was any conclusive evidence as to if it hit his arm (there wasn't). Then another minute while ref goes over to monitor (and by then you know he is going to give it so a complete waste of time).
Not only that but every time you score you half celebrate in fear that VAR will find a way to overturn it.

It's really noticeable how when I go to watch Worthing what a better experience overall it is without VAR.

Listen we won the game anyway so not really the fact we were on the wrong end of the decision but who is benefitting from VAR? Certainly not the supporters who by the way had already had to travel 200 miles each way with a train strike on.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

seagull wrote:
Have to say as a supporter VAR is really tarnishing the experience of attending matches. Was at Wolves on Saturday and referee did not see handball from Dunk (Probably because it didn't touch him). No one really appealed and if game carried on no one would have thought twice. We were in line with it and saw nothing. You then get 2 minutes waiting in bewilderment as to what is going on as they watch the incident over and over again to see if there was any conclusive evidence as to if it hit his arm (there wasn't). Then another minute while ref goes over to monitor (and by then you know he is going to give it so a complete waste of time).
Not only that but every time you score you half celebrate in fear that VAR will find a way to overturn it.

It's really noticeable how when I go to watch Worthing what a better experience overall it is without VAR.

Listen we won the game anyway so not really the fact we were on the wrong end of the decision but who is benefitting from VAR? Certainly not the supporters who by the way had already had to travel 200 miles each way with a train strike on.

I agree with this, Seagull - same for watching Harrogate play, surely it is all part of football's great appeal that it flows and mistakes happen - VAR slows it all down and confuses. Apart from "did it cross the goal-line" stuff I think we should leave the rest to the Referee on the pitch.

wolf · Tennis legend

Aint this the truth. Most of the time people are still arguing over the decisions anyway so whats the point?

indiana · Tennis legend

I have generally always been a supporter of VAR and many of the issues have been human related ( indecision etc ) rather than technology. And undoubtably more decisions are now ultimately right than before, in particular the clearly on review wrong ones ( even if a few to my mind startling decisions are still given after review ) so, to wolf, that is a relevant point.

However, I have never been in a stadium when VAR has been i operation ( may sometime fairly soon if I catch a St Mirren match, wirh the recent Scottish Premiership introduction of VAR ) but I can I think understand and sympathise with the changed live spectator experience. The fans in the stadium matter so much more than those sitting at home on their couches

So overall, I am not really sure. I guess it's here in some form to stay so decisons have to become quicker and the communication to fans better.

wolf · Tennis legend

Can someone tell me on what universe is this not a penalty?

https://mobile.twitter.com/mortimer_ben/status/1591534104616787968

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

wolf wrote:
Can someone tell me on what universe is this not a penalty?

https://mobile.twitter.com/mortimer_ben/status/1591534104616787968

One of many really poor decisions yesterday.

The Spurs first goal against Leeds was a clear foul on the keeper and how Seagull isn't here protesting about the obvious penalty Brighton should have had against Villa, I'll never know.

seagull · Hall of fame

Just par for the course now Bob. Sick of it. Now watch the World Cup implement it perfectly.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

seagull wrote:
Just par for the course now Bob. Sick of it. Now watch the World Cup implement it perfectly.

Agreed.

indiana · Tennis legend

Ha, Scottish referees know how to give penalties. Catch the Ross County one vs Celtic from Saturday if you can. Since the Celtic defender couldn't instantly make his arm disappear the ref gave a penalty and the VAR chap bizarrely confirmed it.

Scottish refs are on another level though