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Bob in Spain


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Have to confess, I am fearing the worst tomorrow.

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Sky Sports News are showing all the goals as they go in on their Soccer Special show, so I'll just watch that ahead of any of the 3 live matches they've picked as there is a lot on the line today - the title and top 4 have clear favourites, but, from a more neutral perspective, the relegation fight is closer and there likely will be a few twists and turns (unless Burnley go 2 up early and Newcastle get a red card or something), even if you'd rather be in Burnley's position.

I'm still pretty amazed that Burnley vs Newcastle is only massively significant to one of those clubs.

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Certainly going to be quite a day with theoretically no position in the Premier League secured before the final day, for apparently the first time ever. Though I think we can say Chelsea will be 3rd as I rather doubt Spurs will overturn Chelsea's 18 goal lead on goal difference!

Re the 4 biggies, I do think that yes a couple of the favourites will come through OK. Man City will prevail over Liverpool for the title and Spurs will prevail over Arsenal for 4th place and Champions League football. Plus Man United will probably just crawl over the line ahead of West Ham for 6th place and Europa League qualification.

But the odds are probably that at least one will go against the favourites and I hope that happens in the closest looking contest and that Leeds do survive with Burnley the fall guys.



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indiana wrote:

Certainly going to be quite a day with theoretically no position in the Premier League secured before the final day, for apparently the first time ever. Though I think we can say Chelsea will be 3rd as I rather doubt Spurs will overturn Chelsea's 18 goal lead on goal difference!

Re the 4 biggies, I do think that yes a couple of the favourites will come through OK. Man City will prevail over Liverpool for the title and Spurs will prevail over Arsenal for 4th place and Champions League football. Plus Man United will probably just crawl over the line ahead of West Ham for 6th place and Europa League qualification.

But the odds are probably that at least one will go against the favourites and I hope that happens in the closest looking contest and that Leeds do survive with Burnley the fall guys.

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Im fearing the worst so I cant be disappointed!

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Bob in Spain wrote:

Well this is interesting.

twitter.com/martynziegler/status/1527665971804221441

"Leeds + Burnley wrote to PL on May 13 expressing concern that Everton have enjoyed unfair advantage despite racking up three-year losses of £371.8m - the permitted loss is £105m"

Excellent independent analysis of the Everton expenditure in this long thread.

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1527982076359856130

 

 



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But don't the Premier League investigate previous spending and losses in their own good time? Probably they colate the data by a stated time.

And I can't see any retrospective punishment being imposed. Clutching at straws I fear.



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It really is mad how pretty much every team can move up or down the table as Indy says, and still so much to be decided.

Team news will be out in 5 mins and promises to be an exciting, or nerve wracking, afternoon ahead. The tennis will be taking a back seat for me during those 2 hours or so.

Edit - 2 changes from Newcastle from the fantastic win over Arsenal. Trippier in for Kraft (against a former club), and Lascelles in for Schaar who came off with concussion in that Arsenal match, so basically as strong as we could go, so Howe is clearly up for it.

 



-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Sunday 22nd of May 2022 02:05:31 PM

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Plenty of drama, and twists, in the first 45 mins.

Tottenham 2-0 up, so like 99.9% that they'll be playing CL football next season, at the expense of Arsenal

Man City behind at home to Villa, Liverpool 1-1 with Wolves, City still top, but if Liverpool score again, City will need two

Burnley 0-1 Newcastle, and Leeds 0-0, so Leeds have been out of the relegation zone for about 25 minutes, but a goal for Burnley, or Brentford, and they will be back in the bottom 3

Man Utd losing 1-0, and West Ham winning by the same score, so West Ham 6th as it stands, and Europa League, and Man Utd 7th, and the Europe Conference, plus Man Utd on course to end the season without a positive goal difference for the first time in the Premier League.

Still so much to play for in the 2nd half...

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indiana wrote:

But don't the Premier League investigate previous spending and losses in their own good time? Probably they colate the data by a stated time.

And I can't see any retrospective punishment being imposed. Clutching at straws I fear.

I'm not expecting any action to be taken.  Just reporting what is being said.

If Leeds are going to stay up we will have to do it on the pitch.

Half time and as things stand .....

Don't say and more Bob.  This is unbearable.



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Enjoying it all, folk?

Live net changes as at HT or 'as things stand', Bob

West Ham up 1, 7th to 6th
Man United down 1, 6th to 7th
Newcastle up 2, 12th to 10th
Crystal Palace up 2, 13th to 11th
Aston Villa up 2, 14th to 12th
Brighton down 3, 10th to 13th
Brentford down 3, 11th to 14th
Leeds up 1, 18th to 17th
Burnley down 1, 17th to 18th



-- Edited by indiana on Sunday 22nd of May 2022 03:59:08 PM

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Blimey - stop the clock now!!

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Enjoy is a bit strong. Enjoyed the penalty though. Would like newcastle to get another now.

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Good timing Spire, haha.

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Newcastle second! Shall I ask for another Leeds goal now?

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