Week 20 - ATP Masters 1000 - Internazionali BNL d'Italia - Rome, Italy (clay)

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Week 20 - ATP Masters 1000 - Internazionali BNL d'Italia - Rome, Italy (clay)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
indiana wrote:
Jaggy1876 wrote:
Djere out so Kyle guaranteed 32nd seed spot before withdrawals for French Open. Could be important but hes going to have to match last years R3 or he wont be seeded for Wimbledon.
Certainly not guaranteed mathematically yet.
Kyle is live ranked 30 on 1325 points. Quite a lot of players can overtake that.
For starters, 4 are Berretini, Kyrgios, Verdasco and Albot, who are all in separate quarters and SF points would be enough for each of them to pass Kyle ( indeed QF would be enough for the first 3 of these ).
And there are other players that give other possible options.
Maybe enough players will be factored out in the next day or two. Ultimately Kyle probably will be seeded for RG, just not guaranteed yet.
Berrettini's still alive after beating Zverev in straight sets (plays Schwartzman in the last 16), as is Verdasco, who has now despatched Thiem in three (plays Khachanov in the last 16), but Kyrgios is out after he defaulted in the third set of his match against Ruud... Albot has still to play Foggy in his last 32 match.

Berrettini & Albot now out, while Verdasco is currently 7-5 2-4* against Khachanov.

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, with these main contendors for overtaking Kyle out, he is now guaranteed a French Open seeding.

He is at the moment still live ranked 30.

Verdasco will overtake him if he beats Khachanov to reach the QF.

There only remain 3 others that can overtake him: Struff, Kohlschreiber and Ruud. All 3 need to reach at least the final here ( Ruud needs to win the title ) so apart from that being individually rather unlikely, I believe we can only have 2 finalists at most ( apart from Kohlschreiber and Ruud anyway being in the same quarter so one of these will be a quarter finalist at best ).

So in total 3 can overtake Kyle, which would take him down to WR 33 on Monday. But Anderson is out of the French Open, so Kyle will be seeded there.

indiana · Tennis legend

Bob in Spain wrote:
Just seen a video of the Kyrgios incident. He really does make it difficult for those who try to defend him.

-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Thursday 16th of May 2019 02:58:59 PM

I like to see characters in the game. Not sure I like to see idiots, setting very poor examples and wasting their talent.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Bob in Spain wrote:
Just seen a video of the Kyrgios incident. He really does make it difficult for those who try to defend him.

Have a read of this. wink

JonH · All-time great

Stircrazy wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
Just seen a video of the Kyrgios incident. He really does make it difficult for those who try to defend him.
Have a read of this.

He can be a prat...but his views are probably right about other players!

indiana · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Yes, with these main contendors for overtaking Kyle out, he is now guaranteed a French Open seeding.

He is at the moment still live ranked 30.

Verdasco will overtake him if he beats Khachanov to reach the QF.

There only remain 3 others that can overtake him: Struff, Kohlschreiber and Ruud. All 3 need to reach at least the final here ( Ruud needs to win the title ) so apart from that being individually rather unlikely, I believe we can only have 2 finalists at most ( apart from Kohlschreiber and Ruud anyway being in the same quarter so one of these will be a quarter finalist at best ).

So in total 3 can overtake Kyle, which would take him down to WR 33 on Monday. But Anderson is out of the French Open, so Kyle will be seeded there.

That all sorted itself out fairly quickly re Kyle's ranking.

Verdasco beat Khachanov to reach the QF and move ahead of Kyle. But Struff, Kohlschreiber and Ruud all exited at the L16 stage.

So Kyle will be WR 31 on Monday.

Michael D · All-time great

JonH wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
Just seen a video of the Kyrgios incident. He really does make it difficult for those who try to defend him.
Have a read of this.
He can be a prat...but his views are probably right about other players!

I must admit he's one of those people that's not afraid to say the things we'd like to say out loud about others at times, but don't dare. biggrin

And interesting that some people he still has a great deal of respect for, notably Federer and Andy.

flamingowings · All-time great

Nick has been an Andy fan right from the start.

indiana · Tennis legend

The 8 quarter finalists are aged 37 (Fed), 35, 32, 31, 30, 29, 26 and 20 (Tsitsipas).

Federer and Tsitsipas meet in the QFs which feature 6 of the top 8 seeds.

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 17th of May 2019 02:54:42 AM

JonH · All-time great

indiana wrote:
The 8 quarter finalists are aged 37 (Fed), 35, 32, 31, 30, 29, 26 and 20 (Tsitsipas).
Federer and Tsitsipas meet in the QFs which feature 6 of the top 8 seeds.

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 17th of May 2019 02:54:42 AM

So the youngest beat the oldest today...sort of. Fed withdrew with no balls played. Lots of tennis for him past two days, hope it was just precautionary.

flamingowings · All-time great

Isner officially withdraws from RG

indiana · Tennis legend

First set 6-4 for del Potro against Djokovic

JonH · All-time great

indiana wrote:
The 8 quarter finalists are aged 37 (Fed), 35, 32, 31, 30, 29, 26 and 20 (Tsitsipas).
Federer and Tsitsipas meet in the QFs which feature 6 of the top 8 seeds.

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 17th of May 2019 02:54:42 AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/simonrbriggs/status/1129311531986907136

5 out of 8 QF's played in the QF ten years ago here in Rome...wow

Jeff Stelling · Club Coach

I see some whispered criticism of Kyrgios. Let me announce Im firmly behind him. Great to see someone break the wall of silence and criticise Nadull the GCOAT (C doesnt stand for claycourter).