Coup Droit wrote:

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Jan wrote:

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But Cam's parents meant he could represent GB, didn't they? He didn't switch for financial reasons, so not really comparable I think.

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 Well, he says that he switched because the New Zealand federation refused to fund him and support him whereas the LTA offered him to be one of the elite with training etc at the NTC.

So although, yes, the door was open because of his parents, it was for financial reasons that he moved

Which is not a criticism, as far as I'm concerned, just it's very similar to Rybakina who switched because Russia wouldn't support her as one of their chosen elite and so she went to a country that would

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Saturday 9th of July 2022 07:14:15 PM

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 Ah ok thanks I wasn't aware of all the details. 

dodrade wrote:

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Stircrazy wrote:

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Elena Rybakina:  a Russian champion by the back door!    Born in Moscow, resident in Moscow, Kazakh (for financial reasons) since 2018.  Am so disappointed for Ons.

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 Pretty daft that Russians competing as neutrals (as in every other tour event) wasn't acceptable but the AELTC was happy to turn a blind eye to one playing under a flag of convenience.

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Not allowing Russian players entry into the Wimbledon Slam was a sanction, just like other sanctions the West has levied against the Russian state and population. The Russian population has "tolerated" the Putin-led regime, turning a blind eye to it's deeds beyond it's borders, whilst the oil&gas revenues have just kept on flowing in. Why should the Russian-accredited players be spared the effect of the sanction, and be allowed to participate as if the world of Tennis is a special case?

What grounds do you have that the AELTC were happy to turn a blind eye, and practically what more could have been done (re: former Russian nationals playing for other federations), without it being used to cloud the main issue?

It's all a bit hindsight-ish, re. Rybakina. Jabeur had her chance, on another day she might have won. If the other Russians had played then Ons may not have reached the final, and therefore wouldn't have gained that experience.

I don't have an opinion re. Rybakina's Kazahkstan connection. If it's all been done by the book, what's wrong with that.

Though tennis is extremely low down on the list of factors driving foreign policy, the different stances by the hosting federation at the Slams re. the participation of Russian players, does highlight how quickly the UK can react, with government and industry able to act in lockstep, when need be.

France being part of a larger entity, the EU, with all the beaurocracy involved, and evidently unable or unwilling to go out on a limb for the 2022 French Open. The situation there might be different in 2023.

The US, being such a complicated society, with such inertia, and risk of litigation. Tennis participation would hardly register as a justifiable reason for taking a stance at the federal level, and therefore organisations just wouldn't take the risk of unilateral action?

Australia, we'll have to wait and see.

Coup Droit wrote:

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So, according to the Mail, Russian (and Belarussian) players have been banned from Wimbledon

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10734475/Wimbledon-BAN-Russian-Belarusian-players-competing-year.html

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According to the Beeb, the LTA has been fined £820,000 for the ban.  Last paragraph but two:

Another very sensitive decision awaits the AELTC and the LTA in the spring. With no end to the war in Ukraine in sight, the two organisations will have to decide whether they are prepared to incur the wrath of governing bodies and some players by banning Russians and Belarusians once again.

Stircrazy wrote:

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Coup Droit wrote:

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So, according to the Mail, Russian (and Belarussian) players have been banned from Wimbledon

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10734475/Wimbledon-BAN-Russian-Belarusian-players-competing-year.html

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According to the Beeb, the LTA has been fined £820,000 for the ban.  Last paragraph but two:

Another very sensitive decision awaits the AELTC and the LTA in the spring. With no end to the war in Ukraine in sight, the two organisations will have to decide whether they are prepared to incur the wrath of governing bodies and some players by banning Russians and Belarusians once again.

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Meanwhile, the IOC has decreed that sporting sanctions against Russia & Belarus must remain...

JonH comes home wrote:

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Stircrazy wrote:

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Stircrazy wrote:

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Coup Droit wrote:

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So, according to the Mail, Russian (and Belarussian) players have been banned from Wimbledon

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10734475/Wimbledon-BAN-Russian-Belarusian-players-competing-year.html

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According to the Beeb, the LTA has been fined £820,000 for the ban.  Last paragraph but two:

Another very sensitive decision awaits the AELTC and the LTA in the spring. With no end to the war in Ukraine in sight, the two organisations will have to decide whether they are prepared to incur the wrath of governing bodies and some players by banning Russians and Belarusians once again.

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Meanwhile, the IOC has decreed that sporting sanctions against Russia & Belarus must remain...

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 But the IOC and Thomas Bach go on to say the sanctions should not impact individual players, rather their countries and that he specifically disagreed with what the lta and Wimbledon did 

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 Given 99% of tennis is an individual sport, it's difficult to see what impacting their countries involves.... so you take away a home tournament .... it's hardly a game changer.....