Bolton and Sunderland 25k entry lists

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Bolton and Sunderland 25k entry lists

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Alice is playing the British Tour event at Bolton this week so she's certainly here

Michael D · All-time great

If Harriet is next into the Monterrey MD, as Seagull reports on Wk 14 entries, then she is not going to be in Bolton next week.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Alice is playing the British Tour event at Bolton this week so she's certainly here

Sorry CD, I meant if Joanna G was in the UK. I've read it back a couple of times and can see why you'd have thought that, putting Alice in brackets would have made it clearer.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Michael D wrote:
If Harriet is next into the Monterrey MD, as Seagull reports on Wk 14 entries, then she is not going to be in Bolton next week.

Yeah, tennisteen.it have her down as next in line, so that would mean at worst she should be a high seed in quals (although her ranking has dipped a bit from the 123 at that time). Not sure how that would impact her France 60k progress though.

It would be great if there was one more withdrawal and she could sneak in as it's not the strongest field in the world and a could be a good opportunity.

SuperT · Futures level

Ace Ventura wrote:
Michael D wrote:
If Harriet is next into the Monterrey MD, as Seagull reports on Wk 14 entries, then she is not going to be in Bolton next week.
Yeah, tennisteen.it have her down as next in line, so that would mean at worst she should be a high seed in quals (although her ranking has dipped a bit from the 123 at that time). Not sure how that would impact her France 60k progress though.
It would be great if there was one more withdrawal and she could sneak in as it's not the strongest field in the world and a could be a good opportunity.

If she goes well in France this week, how likely is it that she'll travel to Mexico for just one week? Not wishing to seem too negative, but if she did make the main draw she could easily lose in the first round, depending on the luck of the draw of course? The alternative of staying in the UK and picking up more points in Bolton and Sunderland before the Fed Cup doesn't seem so awful after quite a long time out. There'll be plenty of opportunities to play WTA events later in the year if she continues winning matches at the lower level.

the addict · Tennis legend

Bit of a toss-up that one. Monterrey is an International, so 18 points for qualifying, 30 points for winning R1, 60 for winning two rounds. Harriet ought to be able to get at least those points for the two W25's.

I reckon she would play in the UK.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

It's a difficult one. If there was one more withdrawal and she got in directly then I'd personally go to Mexico. If she lost in the first round on Monday or Tuesday she could get back and be fine for a Tuesday start the following week in Sunderland, which is a weaker draw than Bolton. One win over a WC, Q or even Watson there and it's the equivalent of winning 4 matches and losing in the Bolton final and there will be one or two banana skins in the Bolton draw, potentially including the qualifier she is struggling with at the moment.

JonH · All-time great

Ace Ventura wrote:
It's a difficult one. If there was one more withdrawal and she got in directly then I'd personally go to Mexico. If she lost in the first round on Monday or Tuesday she could get back and be fine for a Tuesday start the following week in Sunderland, which is a weaker draw than Bolton. One win over a WC, Q or even Watson there and it's the equivalent of winning 4 matches and losing in the Bolton final and there will be one or two banana skins in the Bolton draw, potentially including the qualifier she is struggling with at the moment.

Would it not depend on cost and who is paying as well? Flight to Monterrey and back and hotel costs etc (for her and a coach?) would set back a few k I would have thought, not sure if Andy's management company would pick that up but I doubt the tournament would?

Bolton up the Motorway and a Premier inn for the week would save a lot more money and then she is also in Europe / GB for ongoing events...

Michael D · All-time great

If Harriet is feeling optimistic about her game she will go to Monterrey. It may depend on the outcome of today's match, as lose today I think there are greater prospects of her staying. Ultimately though Monterrey is where she wants to be at.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Didn't realise Harriet was also under the Murray management umbrella.

She will have a decision to make, but as Michael says, could well be decided by the outcome of today, although that does look a bit more positive now as a 2-6 2-6 defeat (which could well have happened at the time of reply) and she might have thought it's not worth it, but seems to be competing much better now. Just after the Sunshine Double, these tournaments aren't usually the strongest, especially as they normally get a fair few pull outs - I think there's been 9 withdrawals in Charlston and Harriet would have actually got into that one had she went for it. Naomi Broady got into Monterrey directly with a ranking of 136 last year and then played the 138 ranked Zhou in the first round, winnable game, won it, 30 points in the bag, some $ in the bank and performed well against the seeded Babos in the next round.

Ultimately you do want to be competing in these WTA events and Harriet has had a bit of success in them home an abroad (Eastbourne and Brisbane, both actually premiers) and I'm not sure how good Harriet is on clay, can't imagine it being too great, but this is the last non clay WTA event until the grass season, so it would be good to give it a go. The field is diverse as you could get a Muguruza or Kerber in R1, or you could get a Watson, Doi (all similarly ranked) or a MDWC and a surprise run in Monterrey could set her up very nicely, certainly more than getting to the SF or F in Bolton anyway.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Eikeri has just withdrawn from Bolton. She was first ahead of Maia in the pecking order in terms of SE's and if they would be needed, so now Maia is first refusal there and that should mean that there is another Brit in the main draw. Paar and Raducanu could both knock her out, but either way, it would be Emma or Maia taking a spot.

Mind, after all this breaking down, it could be irrelevant anyway if Harriet does indeed pull out and head to Mexico.

Edit - I suppose Jodie could just about be in contention to enter the draw directly now as well.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Thursday 28th of March 2019 01:35:50 PM

Michael D · All-time great

Harriet has now won in France today, so if she gets into the MD directly, expect her to go to Monterrey. I'm sure the first round earnings would cover her costs +. However, if she stays in qualifying and reaches the final here that may preclude her going, but as the first alt now it seems likely she will get in and I suspect she will be up for the ride.

JonH · All-time great

Ace Ventura wrote:
Didn't realise Harriet was also under the Murray management umbrella.

She will have a decision to make, but as Michael says, could well be decided by the outcome of today, although that does look a bit more positive now as a 2-6 2-6 defeat (which could well have happened at the time of reply) and she might have thought it's not worth it, but seems to be competing much better now. Just after the Sunshine Double, these tournaments aren't usually the strongest, especially as they normally get a fair few pull outs - I think there's been 9 withdrawals in Charlston and Harriet would have actually got into that one had she went for it. Naomi Broady got into Monterrey directly with a ranking of 136 last year and then played the 138 ranked Zhou in the first round, winnable game, won it, 30 points in the bag, some $ in the bank and performed well against the seeded Babos in the next round.

Ultimately you do want to be competing in these WTA events and Harriet has had a bit of success in them home an abroad (Eastbourne and Brisbane, both actually premiers) and I'm not sure how good Harriet is on clay, can't imagine it being too great, but this is the last non clay WTA event until the grass season, so it would be good to give it a go. The field is diverse as you could get a Muguruza or Kerber in R1, or you could get a Watson, Doi (all similarly ranked) or a MDWC and a surprise run in Monterrey could set her up very nicely, certainly more than getting to the SF or F in Bolton anyway.

I may have got that completely wrong and mixed Harriet up with Katie Swan??! Sorry ! Point still stands though re someone picking up travel costs as it is a lot of money for her without support and at short notice of a few days

indiana · Tennis legend

Michael D wrote:
Harriet has now won in France today, so if she gets into the MD directly, expect her to go to Monterrey. I'm sure the first round earnings would cover her costs +. However, if she stays in qualifying and reaches the final here that may preclude her going, but as the first alt now it seems likely she will get in and I suspect she will be up for the ride.

Yes, Harriet has generally preferred a high level tournament schedule in the last 9 months or so.

Since last year's grass court 100Ks, prior to her appearing at Eastbourne and Wimbledon, this week's France 60K is only her 2nd ITF singles event ( not counting Slams!) with the only other the Oslo 25K last October where she won the title. Otherwise it has been at least WTA International level.

-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 28th of March 2019 02:46:02 PM