Weeks 12 & 13 - ATP Masters 1000 - Miami Open, FL, USA (hard) - singles

flamingowings · All-time great

RE: Weeks 12 & 13 - ATP Masters 1000 - Miami Open, FL, USA (hard) - singles

JonH · All-time great

According to Mike Dickson, Dan was in a foul mood and seems like he needs a break. Lets hope he can pull something out against Jaziri, they have played twice before albeit 6 years plus, and Jaziri has a 2-0 record against Dan.

indiana · Tennis legend

Yay, the lucky man will get another 10 points for 'reaching' the MD taking him to 18 so far. He will start the MD up to live rankings #91 and live race #32.

So cheer up now, Dan.

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 20th of March 2019 09:29:42 PM

Topemp · Strong Club Player

Great draw for Dan. I'd back him to end a great spell in the US with a win over Jaziri, would be icing on the cake if he can make it thru a round (or more) here.

Julia Carrot · All-time great

Oh he is a lucky man - fingers crossed he finds his new man. But maybe he picked up some niggle during that intense period of play and is just not enjoying playing so much if not 100%. Pain makes one grumpy ?

ive just read Mike Dicksons narrative on Twitter - oh dear !

-- Edited by Julia Carrot on Wednesday 20th of March 2019 09:13:02 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Well, Dan is never going to win the choirboy of tennis award. So you just have to go with a flow a bit with him....

But tomorrow's another day. Maybe he'll be feeling a bit sunnier.... (and maybe he did get a real 'mare from the umpire and linespeople and his black mood was quite warranted)

JonH · All-time great

Cam on first tomorrow, Dan also playing. On Miami's courts, which are regarded as medium slow (IW is regarded as slow) (see link below) I favour Cam to beat thompson, but I also fancy Dan will go home early to the UK and have time to think about what he wants to do over the clay season, I am afraid

www.perfect-tennis.com/masters-1000-court-speed-in-2018/

indiana · Tennis legend

Interesting, Jon.

I thought Cincinnati used to at least be noticeably the quickest of the outdoor venues.

The O2 I think has been much quickened up from its early years.

the addict · Tennis legend

I haven't watched any matches from Miami yet this year - how do the courts at the new venue compare with previous years ?

JonH · All-time great

indiana wrote:
Interesting, Jon.

I thought Cincinnati used to at least be noticeably the quickest of the outdoor venues.

The O2 I think has been much quickened up from its early years.

I think Cinci still is rated quickest of the outdoor events outside of Shanghai. The 3 autumn events, Shanghai, Paris and London are certainly rated the quickest.

In 2016, the ATp first released these figures as per link below

https://www.ubitennis.net/2016/10/atp-reveals-court-speed-of-all-nine-master-1000-events-and-atp-finals-shanghai-is-the-fastest/

the perfect tennis analysis seems to use the same methodology/source. In 2016, for some reason London O2 was slower, Miami slightly faster and Shanghai still the fastest. I guess year on year factors such as balls used, weather conditions can impact things but in general it appears Shanghai is fastest, then London and Paris, Canada and Cinci, with Miami and IW bringing up the rear with clay down the bottom. the Court speed index takes these things into account and so year on year is viewed to be a true reflection of what actually happened.

the slams in 2017 where rated: So Australia i s fastest of all big events, Shanghai second, then Wimbledon and US Open. Which is fascinating to me!

Australian Open - 42
Roland Garros - 21
Wimbledon - 37
USO - 36.2 (so far, with the court speed reaching Wimbledon speeds by day 8)

JonH · All-time great

Cam has a 2-0 record over thompson, both on US hardcourts, so i think he must go in as favourite. tennis abstract rate it 52.5-47.5

JonH · All-time great

PS tennis abstract rate dan as 65% to 35% likelihood of beating jaziri. call me a pessimist but i dont see it myself...

flamingowings · All-time great

It's been raining again and play has now been cancelled for the day. Potentially 60+ matches tomorrow.

flamingowings · All-time great

Coup Droit wrote:
Well, Dan is never going to win the choirboy of tennis award. So you just have to go with a flow a bit with him....

But tomorrow's another day. Maybe he'll be feeling a bit sunnier.... (and maybe he did get a real 'mare from the umpire and linespeople and his black mood was quite warranted)

True this. It's now in the Telegraph.

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

JonH wrote:
indiana wrote:
Interesting, Jon.

I thought Cincinnati used to at least be noticeably the quickest of the outdoor venues.

The O2 I think has been much quickened up from its early years.
I think Cinci still is rated quickest of the outdoor events outside of Shanghai. The 3 autumn events, Shanghai, Paris and London are certainly rated the quickest.
In 2016, the ATp first released these figures as per link below
https://www.ubitennis.net/2016/10/atp-reveals-court-speed-of-all-nine-master-1000-events-and-atp-finals-shanghai-is-the-fastest/
the perfect tennis analysis seems to use the same methodology/source. In 2016, for some reason London O2 was slower, Miami slightly faster and Shanghai still the fastest. I guess year on year factors such as balls used, weather conditions can impact things but in general it appears Shanghai is fastest, then London and Paris, Canada and Cinci, with Miami and IW bringing up the rear with clay down the bottom. the Court speed index takes these things into account and so year on year is viewed to be a true reflection of what actually happened.
the slams in 2017 where rated: So Australia i s fastest of all big events, Shanghai second, then Wimbledon and US Open. Which is fascinating to me!

Australian Open - 42
Roland Garros - 21
Wimbledon - 37
USO - 36.2 (so far, with the court speed reaching Wimbledon speeds by day 8)

How do these numbers work? I had always been under the impression that grass was fastest and clay slowest as the ball bouces lower on grass/astroturf so you have to get there quickest.