Weeks 10 & 11 - ATP Masters 1000 - BNP Paribas Open - Indian Wells, CA, USA (hard) - singles

Michael D · All-time great

RE: Weeks 10 & 11 - ATP Masters 1000 - BNP Paribas Open - Indian Wells, CA, USA (hard) - singles

JonH · All-time great

According to live rankings, Dan is on 607 currently (live) and the FQR win would take him up to 616 (not sure why not 615 but heh). Wouldnt he then also add the 10 points for first round loss at IW regardless and that would take him to 625/6. The player in 90th place currently is on 625 points, hence why I said 90th. I may have completely misunderstood and of course other players could win as well but...!

live-tennis.eu/en/atp-live-ranking

Or am I missing the point - I dont think they are building in the 10 pts 1st round loss points currently into the forecast?

Or does OpenEra rankings tell the story differently??! smile

-- Edited by JonH on Wednesday 6th of March 2019 12:49:39 PM

Michael D · All-time great

JonH wrote:
According to live rankings, Dan is on 607 currently (live) and the FQR win would take him up to 616 (not sure why not 615 but heh). Wouldnt he then also add the 10 points for first round loss at IW regardless and that would take him to 625/6. The player in 90th place currently is on 625 points, hence why I said 90th. I may have completely misunderstood and of course other players could win as well but...!

live-tennis.eu/en/atp-live-ranking

Or am I missing the point - I dont think they are building in the 10 pts 1st round loss points currently into the forecast?
Or does OpenEra rankings tell the story differently??!

Yes, I'm using OER Jon, I find them generally much more reliable. Also you can check the counters on OER. Ironically for the women this week, although I think OER have got the positions correct, they have got the respective rise/ fall for several of the British women completely wrong at the moment, but their prediction rankings are usually mostly accurate.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Stircrazy wrote:
L96: (WC) Félix Auger-Aliassime (CAN) WR 58 (= CH) vs Cameron Norrie WR 48 (= CH)
The Canuck's going to be a bit of a handful, I feel...
L96: BYE vs (22) Kyle Edmund WR 23 (CH = 14 last October)
Jarry or Tiafoe in the last 48.

Obviously Kyle is seeded so he was always going to more likely to get a favourable draw but youve got to say Kyle more fortunate with his side of the draw. Cam has got a tough one there with a guy who will be top 20 soon Im certain then Tsitpas next round. It ll certainly be an indicator where he is if he pulls those results off.

indiana · Tennis legend

Dan should currently be live 599 points ie. his current 591 points + 8 which is what OER has.

live-tennis has so far added 16 points ( as one column shows) for their 607 and as Jon says are indicating that a FQR will add a further 9. A Slam has 16 points for a FQR and 25 points for a qualifier. Hmm.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

I also note Kyle would get Federer in the fourth round, but thats at the business end of things. Cam would have to navigate Anderson and Zverev so overall a tougher section.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

indiana wrote:
Dan should currently be live 599 points ie. his current 591 points + 8 which is what OER has.

live-tennis has so far added 16 points ( as one column shows) for their 607 and as Jon says are indicating that a FQR will add a further 9. A Slam has 16 points for a FQR and 25 points for a qualifier. Hmm.

Looking at where they will be Wimbledon time, its looking more likely Id say that Dan will realistically be about the 50 Mark Id say depending on his schedule. Depends on how much dirtball he wishes to play. If its very little he could clean up playing elsewhere to push on. Interesting times for the 3.

indiana · Tennis legend

Jaggy1876 wrote:
I also note Kyle would get Federer in the fourth round, but thats at the business end of things. Cam would have to navigate Anderson and Zverev so overall a tougher section.

Wouldn't be too worried for Cam. I am sure I read somewhere that Anderson (R4) was vastly overrated when Kyle beat him in last year's R1 of the Aus Open at the very start of his lucky draw. And Zverev would be in a QF, a round later than Kyle could meet Fed so rather more business end.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

What about the first point Indiana? Pathetic response from you really, came to expect that though.

indiana · Tennis legend

Cam's first 2 rounds are certainly tricky. FAA with Tsitsipas awaiting in R2 doesn't look at all fun even though a seed had to await there so R2 would be relatively difficult whatever.

Sorry, I just found the later rounds comparison comments interesting ( Zverev as opposed to Djokovic, Nadal or Federer at the QF stage and in the SF way - nae luck) though maybe I should get less interested.

All the best to all our guys when some tennis breaks out again.

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 6th of March 2019 04:11:54 PM

JonH · All-time great

Looks like Dan (being 3rd on after a 7 pm UK time start and a ladies doubles up first) could be on around 10pm tonight, maybe slightly later. But much better than last night.

JonH · All-time great

Match before Dan going quickly, could be on by 10

flamingowings · All-time great

indiana wrote:
Jaggy1876 wrote:
I also note Kyle would get Federer in the fourth round, but thats at the business end of things. Cam would have to navigate Anderson and Zverev so overall a tougher section.
Wouldn't be too worried for Cam. I am sure I read somewhere that Anderson (R4) was vastly overrated when Kyle beat him in last year's R1 of the Aus Open at the very start of his lucky draw. And Zverev would be in a QF, a round later than Kyle could meet Fed so rather more business end.

Anderson has been out injured, on/off again elbow injury I think it is.

indiana · Tennis legend

JonH wrote:
Match before Dan going quickly, could be on by 10

Not now. It is starting a final set.

JonH · All-time great

Caruso clearly warming up for his encore!