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Weeks 10 & 11 - ATP Masters 1000 - BNP Paribas Open - Indian Wells, CA, USA (hard) - singles


Dan takes the TB 7-4

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flamingowings wrote:

I'm watching a stream but it's in Spanish.


 Can you provide a link to that please?



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SuperT wrote:
flamingowings wrote:

I'm watching a stream but it's in Spanish.


 Can you provide a link to that please?


 https://www.jokerlivestream.com/joker-tennis-live-streaming-5.html



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flamingowings wrote:
SuperT wrote:
flamingowings wrote:

I'm watching a stream but it's in Spanish.


 Can you provide a link to that please?


 https://www.jokerlivestream.com/joker-tennis-live-streaming-5.html


Thanks 



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One set all. Stan broke again at end and has serve now.

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Whatever happens from here Dan is producing some wonderful tennis.

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L96:  Stan Wawrinka (SUI) WR 40 defeated (Q) Daniel Evans WR 100 by 6-7(4) 6-3 6-3  cry

 

 



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Very high standard of tennis, shame it was a first round match....



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So Dan gets beaten and the BBC STILL manage to mention the drugs ban. Makes me wonder if their own reporters are high on something.

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Bob in Spain wrote:

So Dan gets beaten and the BBC STILL manage to mention the drugs ban. Makes me wonder if their own reporters are high on something.


 The BBC are a disgrace, I dont want to get all political here as I know it annoys people but you all know what Im thinking and they are basically just a propaganda vehicle for the current party in power. Id stop paying my TV license if I could. Some of the laziest journalists youll come across. Probably because they are told what to say having said that.

Dan could win Wimbledon and the drugs reference would still be there. Personal life issues should not be relevant especially not now.



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I think the drug references will continue to Wimbledon. The BBC journalists are indeed amongst the laziest but I guess they are trying to write about everything....and they simply do not have the knowledge, and the are writing for the General public, not the more knowledgeable supporter. When Dan appears at Wimbledon this year there will be plenty of people who think Wasn't that the guy the got banned for drugs??? As it will be the first time they have heard of him in a year.

Not that I am defending the Beeb. Im far from a fan with all those expense account sloshing around. it is what it is though. Some people there should know better but in general, it will always be this way so I try to ignore it.

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Bob in Spain wrote:

So Dan gets beaten and the BBC STILL manage to mention the drugs ban. Makes me wonder if their own reporters are high on something.


 The BBC are a disgrace, I dont want to get all political here as I know it annoys people but you all know what Im thinking and they are basically just a propaganda vehicle for the current party in power. Id stop paying my TV license if I could. Some of the laziest journalists youll come across. Probably because they are told what to say having said that.

Dan could win Wimbledon and the drugs reference would still be there. Personal life issues should not be relevant especially not now.


Again at the risk of being perceived as being emotive because someone didnt want to get political because they didnt want to annoy people but..... The last post is deluded night moves thinking. I cannot find an element of factual correctness within it. Like Bob you do not have to pay the licence fee, just do not own a TV and do not watch the BBC it is not compulsory. It is however geberally an excellent source of reliable information, indeed I dont think there is a media outlet that is comparable.

Individuals within the organisation have their biases but I see the editorial policy as being politically neutral. As a pint of IPA a week but nominal champagne socialist myself if anything it generally leans to the left but they, the BBC get an imense amount of flak from both side depending on the agenda of the politician and the version of the truth they want presented. As a disclaimer despite my political allegiances I cant claim to have been brought up on a council estate although my relatives were manual/skilled labourers most owned their two up two down and my dad followed the grammar school double garage hard nosed Tory but send your kids to comp route. So it probably has something to do with equity and equality of opportunity ... a sense of social sensibility etc.... as opposed to the class war stuff as I am not really placed to make that argument. 

Dans drugs ban is still pertinent, he is only ranked 100 in the world because of it, ie he is a much better player than that indeed he was ranked 41 and in the form of his life prior to his drugs ban. I think if you look at Novaks return from injury when he was under ranked because he was returning from injury that was referenced as often.

I dont think Dans drug ban is being referenced because ...... cocaine usage is endemic, it really screws people up but a significant proportion of people use it regularly and pretty heavily yet get by or because there are major issues related to criminal activity and its supply, knife crime is heavily associated with gangs and drug dealing.

I dont think it is being referenced because there is debate around autonomy and that using cocaine is a choice, although being caught using cocaine has consequences or because most dont feel the benefits of taking it outweigh the harms not just personal but the wider implications on society....  or that those with a more liberal view, legalise it! alcohol does more harm .. but probably not on a case by case basis... may be guilty of double standards if they consider cocaine use in a family context ... with family being a metaphor for or society in general and that most parents (Admittedly not all) would not turn round to their kids at 16/17  and say this stuff is fantastic do you want to try some in the way they might buy them a drink.

All that said, Dans comeback has been amazing his insight into why he got his ban and reaction to it honest and inspiring. I just hope he continues to go from strength to strength and obtains a rank commensurate with his skill set and the time out becomes irrelevant. His drugs ban will always be part of his story and I think he has done a good job of owning it.



-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Saturday 9th of March 2019 07:44:59 AM

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L48:  Nicolás Jarry (CHI) WR 86 (CH = 39 last November) vs (22) Kyle Edmund WR 23



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Go Kyle!

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Oakland did you watch Question Time in Motherwell the other week? The BBC selected the audience. You are naive if you dont think they have an agenda. Also I work nights so the time of my post is irrelevant, and I did not grow up on a council estate and studied politics at university, so your Tory predijuces of what you think I come from are blown out of the water here. I dont have a choice regarding not having a TV either sadly.

The main point here is the tone of the beeb is all wrong. They need to drop the drug nonsense when referring to Dan. It is simply not relevant, condescending and patronising.

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