Week 9 - Oracle Challenger ($162,480+H) - Indian Wells, CA, USA (hard)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Week 9 - Oracle Challenger ($162,480+H) - Indian Wells, CA, USA (hard)

goldfish · Futures qualifying

Week 8 - Oracle Challenger ($162,480+H) - Indian Wells, CA, USA (hard)

JonH · All-time great

Although Dan has a good first match his path is then istomin, Donaldson, krajonovic. Wouldn't surprise me to see Dan not repeat his current weeks exploits

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

I'll be gobsmacked if he doesn't pull out. I'd rather he rested and got ready for IW qualies.

brittak · Satellite level

RE: Week 9 - Oracle Challenger ($162,480+H) - Indian Wells, CA, USA (hard)

Madadman · Masters Series Champion

Yeah Id be surprised if Dan plays. If he was seeded and therefore had a round 1 bye might have been different. Only advantage of playing is to get use to the courts there before masters Qualifying.

-- Edited by Madadman on Sunday 24th of February 2019 10:46:50 AM

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

Madadman wrote:
Yeah Id be surprised if Dan plays. If he was seeded and therefore had a round 1 bye might have been different. Only advantage of playing is to get use to the courts there before masters Qualifying.

My thoughts exactly. Just do a round and then rest at most. Big points up for grabs for IW proper.

JonH · All-time great

14 of the 16 first round ties are in the schedule for today, dans match is one of the 2 presumably held over to Tuesday, if he plays of course.

JonH · All-time great

A number of players ranked just above Dan are defending points this week and so taking those into account, Dan is live ranked 100.

live-tennis.eu/en/atp-live-ranking

As it stands, Harrison, Garcia Lopez, Pospisil , Krajinovic, and Donskoy will all stand to drop points. Garcia Lopez and Pospisil are not into the main draws this week.

Whether that will encourage Dan to give it a go and play at least a round or two this week, let's see

indiana · Tennis legend

Let's hope not. Play the challenger if he would play it anyway. If he feels he needs to rest, rest.

It's not as if he's never been top 100 before anyway.

Vandenburg · Futures level

Helen40 wrote:
I'll be gobsmacked if he doesn't pull out. I'd rather he rested and got ready for IW qualies.

Agree think we will see less players in the top 50 opt for Challengers now.

You only get 10 points for reaching the 3rd round. Might as well play a Futures, in the old points system.

Pointless

indiana · Tennis legend

Not sure why we should particularly see less players in the top 50 opt for challengers now.

If you are ranked top 50, as with Kyle here, you would undoubtably get a bye to the L32 and L16/R3 here would be your second round of action after just one win. Challengers will be basically as was for points for these players, R1/L48 being irrelevant to them, with here their points ranging from 10 points for one win to 125 points for the title.

They will just continue to play them as occasionally warrants such as Kyle coming back from injury, quite apart from getting used to the IW courts.

As before, I agree debatable for Dan with his exertions from last week and for him starting in R1.

flamingowings · All-time great

I just see it is a vulture for points to be honest. The Chinese top seed is ranked18! Surely they would both be seeded in one of the other tournies?
OTOH, they in on Wc's so its a tournament choice and might be a draw for the crowd.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

flamingowings wrote:
The Chinese top seed is ranked18!

confuse

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
The Chinese top seed is ranked18!

Means Wang Qiang in the WTA 125k equivalent. She got one of the 'top 50' WCs so don't know the deal with those and whether tournaments have to accept them, or what they do if there were a few who wanted one.

She is actually in a very similar position to Kyle, not played since the Aussie Open due to injury. She also needs a new coach, but her coach retiring was announced before she entered this event.

She does look a bit out of place here, but I guess she's in the exact same location next week for a much bigger event and it will give herself a chance to ease back into things and gain confidence (2-2 this year) against slightly weaker opposition and get used to her new coach before the more important stuff.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Monday 25th of February 2019 01:20:13 PM