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RE: Fed Cup 2019 World Group II Play-Off - Great Britain vs Kazakhstan- 20-21 April


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Having been to Bath and Copper Box arena the event has given me a feeling of well being apart from Katie's defeat yesterday. It lived up to its build up. In the past they did have a 1 week Fed Cup. It was held in London in 1963,Eastbourne in June 1977 and Nottingham in July  1991. If you get a 1 week event  it will probably finish up in the Far East. If Johanna Konta had stayed with her roots she might well be appearing in the Fed Cup final for Australia with Ashleigh Barty. Also I think Annie K was luck to have Jo in top form whereas Jo never approached such form with Judy Murray. There are other countries basically dependent  on 1 player. i.ie. Australia with Ashleigh  Barty and Rumania with Simona Halep.


If it was in the Far East (or even Australia) then it would be grim as we'd hardly get to see any of it - the Australia-Belarus tie sounded exciting, but I didn't get to see a second of it with the 3am starts. All the money these days seems certainly does seem to be coming from the Far East, particularly China, so my biggest fear would be it ending up there, but there is talk that it might be held in the Czech Republic, which would be a great choice. Unless of course that's a holding venue (like Madrid in the DC) and it did end up in China, like the DC is going to Indian Wells (although that's quite convenient for us).

It does sound like Barty pretty much carried Australia today with her winning her two matches and Stosur losing both, before they combined to win the doubles, and it was almost similar with Halep in her tie, but both Romania and Australia do have more depth than a lot of nations like GB, Canada and Netherlands who really are pretty reliant on one superior player (although Boulter's stock has gone up this year). Gavrilova is out of form this year (hence Stosur's call up), yet she is normally a solid top 50 player and they might have Tomljanovic if she sorts her eligibility issues with the ITF. Sharma looks like bursting on the scenes as well. Buzarnescu has unfortunately never been the same player since her US Open Swing injury last year, but if she can recover then that's a great option and they do have top 100 players like Niculescu, Begu etc. to call upon. But yes, if Halep and Barty decided to withdraw like Bertens did then they'd go from a Fed Cup favourite to a relatively average side. Czech Republic, USA and Belarus and slightly lower down, Germany Spain and France, seem to have the most depth. Slovakia are also reasonably solid, but don't really have that one standout player yet (Kuzmova maybe down the line).



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If you want the top players to play in a multi team finals tournament and you want it in April then it really has to be in Europe to avoid absurd travel itineraries. The alternative would be to hold it at the beginning of April in North America straight after Miami, but after 4 weeks of PMs we already see how many top players withdraw from tournaments the week after Miami so that doesn't seem likely.

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Just to say I followed from afar but what a fantastic win again, well done Jo and Katie.

Apparently itf want ten million guaranteed funding for hosting finals from host city ($). Budapest has indicated interest but not clear they can afford it. Still quite possible will have a singlb16 team world group with home and away, expanded from 8 currently and GB would be in that or a qualifying play off if they do go for the new 12 team model

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I also see the final will be down under , Australia v France in November. Barty won all 3 ties. It would be great to see a grass court final, or at Melbourne park and a big crowd.

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I see on BBC 1 breakfast programme this morning that Annabel Croft said that Jeremy Bates was coaching Katie B. As for picking your best singles player for a deciding doubles rubber, last year Japan did not pick Naomi Osaka but picked a doubles combination neither of whom were recognized singles players. Japan duly won the doubles. 



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A similar situation in a match can produce different emotions depending on who you want to win. When Katie was 4-0 up(2 breaks of serve) and later had 3 match points against Putintseva I was gutted when she didn't win and kept on feeling she should have won the match. However when Putintseva had 4-1 up  (2 breaks of serve) and twice had a point for 5-1 against Jo, my emotion was great  joy because Jo eventually won the match. I do not  spend  any  time thinking Putintseva should have won the match which she probably should have done.



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Katie Boulter has been nominated for a Fed Cup Heart award.
www.fedcup.com/en/news/306549.aspx

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So the Fed Cup is following on from the Davis Cup, and changing to a different format. And GB will have to qualify in February

www.fedcup.com/en/news/307959.aspx

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I see GB are one of the 16 nations that will have to play qualifying. Can someone interpret the following sentence for me though as I really do not understand it?

'Sixteen nations will compete in the 2020 Fed Cup by BNP Paribas Qualifiers on 7-8 February on a home-and-away basis over five matches to earn one of eight places in the Finals, where they will join the previous years finalists, Australia and France, host nation Hungary and one wild card nation to be confirmed.'

I am assuming they mean a home OR away basis, not a home AND away basis. Home and away means you play in both locations, and hard to see how that would be done over 2 days with 5 matches each. So assuming this is an error, it means that the first round is a similar format to the last played match against Kazakstan and then the winner goes straight into the later finals. The losers will presumably have to play some kind of qualification match for the next year again.

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The chart mentioned in the article does show the overall structure for the various groups. Still says home and away, but that must mean home OR away.

www.fedcup.com/media/307963/307963.pdf

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Maybe they intend it to be played at both venues simultaneously?

 

... or maybe "home and away" as opposed to "neutral venue"



-- Edited by christ on Thursday 27th of June 2019 11:04:40 AM

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Yeah, definitely one tie Michael, and that term 'home and away' is commonly used for Fed Cup and Davis Cup, even though it is a bit misleading.

Mixed feelings about this. I do quite like the idea of a one tournament finals, and April is a decent month as there's nothing really big between Miami and Madrid, and it should attract big players (Halep's stance will be interesting) because the prize money is huge and it leads perfectly into the bigger clay events, and it's in Europe meaning most here could watch parts of it, rather than starting at 3am in the Far East, and it's nice to see new innovations happening in Europe as most seem to be elsewhere these days. However, it's not great that Hungary get in directly (although not surprising and in line with nations that host huge football tournaments) and I don't really like the WC either (like I didn't in the Davis Cup, even though GB benefited).

Also, it kind of makes that GB-Kazakhstan tie pretty pointless (despite the great experience and memories) because Kazakhstan are in exactly the same position as us, so losing would have made no difference. Plus, if we do qualify, clay will pretty much mean GB won't make any impact at all in the finals, although actually, I am forgetting about Konta's resurgence, and maybe in the 2021 addition, Fran might be where Harriet is now, and could be an asset. Maybe even Garland as well...

Definitely advantages and disadvantages as far as I'm concerned, but overall I think I'm pleased and I will be very interested to see how the first edition goes. I guess I will be in the minority on here though. I kind of wish they waited until they saw how the men's event went later this year.



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https://www.daviscup.com/290057?channel=daviscupnews

The new format will involve a qualifying round in February, in which 24 teams will take part in home and away matches a key element of the Davis Cups heritage. The 12 winners will secure a direct place into the final and will join the four semifinalists of the previous year who qualify without having to play in February and two wildcards that will be announced before the draw for the qualifying round.



-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Thursday 27th of June 2019 11:04:00 AM

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Yes, I'm used to football where home and away means literally that - you play at both venues!!!

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Yes, it's misleading ( but accepted ) rather than an "error". I am sure if you looked through Fed Cup and Davis Cup threads in this forum you would find that folk here have pretty routinely used the same terminology.

Anyway nice to pay lip service to "a key element of the Davis Cups heritage" to then say bollocks to all that past the qualifiers for the important bits and run for the money. I wonder if whoever wrote that managed to keep a straight face! 



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