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Probably easy to make comprisions with Lleyton Hewitt, but, yeah, too early.

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Sounds like his serve has improved at least, that was probably the part of his game that concerned me the most last year. And if he is playing a more aggressive game it may take some time to bed in. I guess we'll probably be in a better place to see where his game is by the time we get to Indian Wells-Miami

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The Knight wrote:

Sounds like his serve has improved at least, that was probably the part of his game that concerned me the most last year. And if he is playing a more aggressive game it may take some time to bed in. I guess we'll probably be in a better place to see where his game is by the time we get to Indian Wells-Miami

Exactly. If he indeed is deploying a new style of play, one contrary to his best instincts, it's going to take a little longer than two competitive matches to get used to. 

I am actually pretty optimistic (as you can probably tell by my predictions!). Andy has never been like Fed or Serena (in more ways than one) - he can't just waltz into a tournament after prolonged injury and make the latter stages. As long as he works hard and stays healthy, I really think he has the tools in his game and mind to remodel his approach and play regular top 10 tennis. 

 

 



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I actually looked at Vandy's predictions the other day and thought he might not be too wrong in what he predicts. Hopefully he is oing to be proved wrong but...

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Yep, away from some of these headline threads Vandy generally becomes very reasonable or at least understandable with general ranking predictions.

So boring  

 

And yes, hope wrong re their general Andy thoughts but ...



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LordBrownof wrote:
The Knight wrote:

Sounds like his serve has improved at least, that was probably the part of his game that concerned me the most last year. And if he is playing a more aggressive game it may take some time to bed in. I guess we'll probably be in a better place to see where his game is by the time we get to Indian Wells-Miami

Exactly. If he indeed is deploying a new style of play, one contrary to his best instincts, it's going to take a little longer than two competitive matches to get used to.

Some quotes from Stu Fraser's Times article:

There was not a massive reduction in comfort [compared to his first-round match against James Duckworth], but as you play up the levels, whether there are issues with your game like not serving or moving well, the better players exploit that. He [Medvedev] is a top player and is able to do that.  I need to try and find a way of working out how to get around some of the things that I struggle with a little bit now and I will try to do that.

"Playing a best-of-five-set match is obviously physically more demanding, but the benefit of the way the grand slams are set up is having that day of recovery," Murray said.  "My match yesterday [in the first round] was not particularly demanding physically and neither was tonight's match. It is just that there is a little bit less time to recover in these events. Sometimes you get over 48 hours to recover for matches at the slams.  Obviously five sets is difficult, so you want to to try and limit those. I will need to see what happens. These [ATP] tournaments and the slams are quite different in how your body has to deal with them."

 



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SF: (4) Rajeev Ram (USA) & Joe Salisbury CR 51 (21+30) beat (WC) James Duckworth & Jordan Thompson (AUS/AUS) UNR (0+296) 7-6(5) 6-3

F: (4) Rajeev Ram (USA) & Joe Salisbury CR 51 (21+30) vs Marcus Daniell & Wesley Koolhof (NZL/NED) CR 93 (51+42)

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Yay! Well done to them both, a superb start to the season.

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Excellent - out of interest what is a typical seeding cut off in doubles, I imagine Joe and rajeev will move to early to mid 40's combined after this week?

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Medvedev went on to beat Raonic today and reach SF. We shouldnt get too down about Andy, a win this week was fine, he has played , what six matches in over a year , what will be will be.

I actually think Medvedev will be an interesting one to watch at Australian Open, keep an eye on him.



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I suspect the seeding cut offs in ATP 250s are very variable in general and there will be many occasions where Joe and Rajeev's current rankings would have seen them seeded compared to these pre Aussie Open tournaments.


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wolf wrote:

SF: (4) Rajeev Ram (USA) & Joe Salisbury CR 51 (21+30) beat (WC) James Duckworth & Jordan Thompson (AUS/AUS) UNR (0+296) 7-6(5) 6-3

F: (4) Rajeev Ram (USA) & Joe Salisbury CR 51 (21+30) vs Marcus Daniell & Wesley Koolhof (NZL/NED) CR 93 (51+42)



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indiana wrote:

I suspect the seeding cut offs in ATP 250s are very variable in general and there will be many occasions where Joe and Rajeev's current rankings would have seen them seeded compared to these pre Aussie Open tournaments.

 thanks indi - I wasn't v clear I was actually musing Re the Aussie Open and whether they could be close to a seeding there - I just didn't say that !



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Medvedev is in the final and will play Nishikori.

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Sadly Joe and rajeev lost the doubles final in straight sets, still a good week

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