Week 44 - ITF ($60K) - Canberra, Australia Hard

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Week 44 - ITF ($60K) - Canberra, Australia Hard

indiana · Tennis legend

Very efficiently done by Jodie. And nice to bang down these aces again as Jaggy mentioned after her opening win.

Certainly seems to have picked up well after the unfortunate finish against Astra Sharma to what was still a good week.

Upwardly mobile and for predictors she is currently looking like contesting the end of season GB positions 9, 10 & 11 with Maia and Fran, though some others are not that far behind and will for instance hope to pick up good points in the GB 25Ks.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Very efficiently done by Jodie. And nice to bang down these aces again as Jaggy mentioned after her opening win.

Certainly seems to have picked up well after the unfortunate finish against Astra Sharma to what was still a good week.

Upwardly mobile and for predictors she is currently looking like contesting the end of season GB positions 9, 10 & 11 with Maia and Fran, though some others are not that far behind and will for instance hope to pick up good points in the GB 25Ks.

Yeah, she's progressing quite nicely. A couple of top 250 wins these past couple of weeks, pushed Diatchenko very close in the 3rd set a couple of months ago and gave Katy a couple of good matches during the grass season. Training-wise, it looks like she is taking it much more seriously now and she's just 19 and a half. I think I have more faith in her than Maia, Fran, Freya etc. to bridge that sizeable gap to Katy, and I wouldn't be too shocked if this time next year she was ranked on par with Katy.

Peter too · Tennis legend

Q2: BURRAGE, Jodie Anna (GBR) 5 454 def JOVANOVIC, Masa (SRB) 653 6-2 6-1

Q3: BURRAGE, Jodie Anna (GBR) 5 454 v PARTAUD, Marine (FRA) 4 439 CH=407 25/6/18

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Ace Ventura wrote:
indiana wrote:
Very efficiently done by Jodie. And nice to bang down these aces again as Jaggy mentioned after her opening win.

Certainly seems to have picked up well after the unfortunate finish against Astra Sharma to what was still a good week.

Upwardly mobile and for predictors she is currently looking like contesting the end of season GB positions 9, 10 & 11 with Maia and Fran, though some others are not that far behind and will for instance hope to pick up good points in the GB 25Ks.
Yeah, she's progressing quite nicely. A couple of top 250 wins these past couple of weeks, pushed Diatchenko very close in the 3rd set a couple of months ago and gave Katy a couple of good matches during the grass season. Training-wise, it looks like she is taking it much more seriously now and she's just 19 and a half. I think I have more faith in her than Maia, Fran, Freya etc. to bridge that sizeable gap to Katy, and I wouldn't be too shocked if this time next year she was ranked on par with Katy.

Interesting what you say about about training-wise, she is taking it much more seriously. Is this based on specific knowledge or a hunch?

I know that she has had a serious injury problem (with a ruptured tendon, I believe, but might be wrong) a little while back.

But I have had certain questions about her and Freya, and their training/coaching for a while - indeed, maybe about JTC as a whole.

Both Jodie and Freya (and Ryan Storrie too, despite ongoing injury) should, IMO, be a lot higher ranked. And I get the feeling, when I see them, that there's quite a lot of messing around (which is fine up to a point) and the coaches are not really getting the best out of the players. Or maybe, at their age, it's them who aren't getting the best out of themselves. Or both.

It's true they're all young. And JTC has some connection with Jack Draper, I think too, which seems to be working out fine (!). But it's unusual to have three players who are all talented, but under-performing.

However, I still have every faith in Jodie, and faith in the others too. Jodie should certainly be aiming to be about 200-250 next year. There would be nothing shocking about that at all. In fact, the shock would be if she were still 400-450.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Quali Doubles:

FQR: Soumeya ANANE (GBR) / Haruna ARAKAWA (JPN) [1] def. Tallulah FARROW (AUS) / Sabastiani LEON (USA) 6-3 6-3

They've got a wildcard pair in the main draw too, which is nice.

Jodie is also playing.

Michael D · All-time great

MD is out and Gabi is 2nd seed. Katy has Astra Sharma who she has beaten earlier this year.

R32: Gabriella TAYLOR (GBR) [2] 164 vs Lizette CABRERA (AUS) 222 (CH:134 Oct 17)
R32: Katy DUNNE (GBR) [8] 233 vs Astra SHARMA (AUS) 244 (CH:239 Oct 18)
H2H: 2018 $60,000 Lexington, KY USA Hard 16 DUNNE 7-6(5) 6-3

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Probably the worst draws they could have had being seeds. If Katy can come through then she plays an Aussies WC.

Michael D · All-time great

Ace Ventura wrote:
Probably the worst draws they could have had being seeds. If Katy can come through then she plays an Aussies WC.

Yes, Cabrera at 222 is not far off the rank of Perez last week, who was at 214, whom Gabi lost to in the SF. Still if she wants to progress up the rankings Gabi has to be able to beat players at this ranking level.

Katy's form not being particularly great, my first reaction was that she will probably lose this, but it's time she had a few better performances, and it is encouraging she has beaten Sharma once this year.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
indiana wrote:
Very efficiently done by Jodie. And nice to bang down these aces again as Jaggy mentioned after her opening win.

Certainly seems to have picked up well after the unfortunate finish against Astra Sharma to what was still a good week.

Upwardly mobile and for predictors she is currently looking like contesting the end of season GB positions 9, 10 & 11 with Maia and Fran, though some others are not that far behind and will for instance hope to pick up good points in the GB 25Ks.
Yeah, she's progressing quite nicely. A couple of top 250 wins these past couple of weeks, pushed Diatchenko very close in the 3rd set a couple of months ago and gave Katy a couple of good matches during the grass season. Training-wise, it looks like she is taking it much more seriously now and she's just 19 and a half. I think I have more faith in her than Maia, Fran, Freya etc. to bridge that sizeable gap to Katy, and I wouldn't be too shocked if this time next year she was ranked on par with Katy.
Interesting what you say about about training-wise, she is taking it much more seriously. Is this based on specific knowledge or a hunch?
I know that she has had a serious injury problem (with a ruptured tendon, I believe, but might be wrong) a little while back.
But I have had certain questions about her and Freya, and their training/coaching for a while - indeed, maybe about JTC as a whole.
Both Jodie and Freya (and Ryan Storrie too, despite ongoing injury) should, IMO, be a lot higher ranked. And I get the feeling, when I see them, that there's quite a lot of messing around (which is fine up to a point) and the coaches are not really getting the best out of the players. Or maybe, at their age, it's them who aren't getting the best out of themselves. Or both.
It's true they're all young. And JTC has some connection with Jack Draper, I think too, which seems to be working out fine (!). But it's unusual to have three players who are all talented, but under-performing.
However, I still have every faith in Jodie, and faith in the others too. Jodie should certainly be aiming to be about 200-250 next year. There would be nothing shocking about that at all. In fact, the shock would be if she were still 400-450.

It was a hunch based on recent social media pictures but I didn't want Jaggy to accuse me of being a creepy old man, haha.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Michael D wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
Probably the worst draws they could have had being seeds. If Katy can come through then she plays an Aussies WC.
Yes, Cabrera at 222 is not far off the rank of Perez last week, who was at 214, whom Gabi lost to in the SF. Still if she wants to progress up the rankings Gabi has to be able to beat players at this ranking level.
Katy's form not being particularly great, my first reaction was that she will probably lose this, but it's time she had a few better performances, and it is encouraging she has beaten Sharma once this year.

Yeah, Cabrera was seeded last week and made the semis before losing on 3 to eventual winner Hon. If you look on the ITF page, she is down as 5th seed at 190 but has had QF WTA Hong Kong coming off and I assume a Chinese 100k event QF points off as well so her new ranking is a bit lower, but obviously capable of doing well in these type of events. I'd make it a 50/50, obviously not beyond Gabi and as you say she does need to be winning these if she is to move on, but it is a bit like playing another seed and when you see those Japanese players who she best last week, Issy, 4 quals and 4 WCs, it could have been a lot easier.

Encouraging that Katy did beat Sharma not too long ago, but it's largely been downhill for KD since then and I'd make Astra a reasonable favourite here at home and current form.

paulisi · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
indiana wrote:
Very efficiently done by Jodie. And nice to bang down these aces again as Jaggy mentioned after her opening win.

Certainly seems to have picked up well after the unfortunate finish against Astra Sharma to what was still a good week.

Upwardly mobile and for predictors she is currently looking like contesting the end of season GB positions 9, 10 & 11 with Maia and Fran, though some others are not that far behind and will for instance hope to pick up good points in the GB 25Ks.
Yeah, she's progressing quite nicely. A couple of top 250 wins these past couple of weeks, pushed Diatchenko very close in the 3rd set a couple of months ago and gave Katy a couple of good matches during the grass season. Training-wise, it looks like she is taking it much more seriously now and she's just 19 and a half. I think I have more faith in her than Maia, Fran, Freya etc. to bridge that sizeable gap to Katy, and I wouldn't be too shocked if this time next year she was ranked on par with Katy.
Interesting what you say about about training-wise, she is taking it much more seriously. Is this based on specific knowledge or a hunch?
I know that she has had a serious injury problem (with a ruptured tendon, I believe, but might be wrong) a little while back.
But I have had certain questions about her and Freya, and their training/coaching for a while - indeed, maybe about JTC as a whole.
Both Jodie and Freya (and Ryan Storrie too, despite ongoing injury) should, IMO, be a lot higher ranked. And I get the feeling, when I see them, that there's quite a lot of messing around (which is fine up to a point) and the coaches are not really getting the best out of the players. Or maybe, at their age, it's them who aren't getting the best out of themselves. Or both.
It's true they're all young. And JTC has some connection with Jack Draper, I think too, which seems to be working out fine (!). But it's unusual to have three players who are all talented, but under-performing.
However, I still have every faith in Jodie, and faith in the others too. Jodie should certainly be aiming to be about 200-250 next year. There would be nothing shocking about that at all. In fact, the shock would be if she were still 400-450.

That's a bit harsh on JTC.

Mark Taylor is looking after the boys and they are doing all right. Ryan is in an awkward situation without any LTA funding and was not getting 1-1 training. George, Finn, Ryan etc

Jack Draper is having a terrific year.

Jodie is starting to fly up the rankings. Only Freya and Hev not really pushing on. Even Glass pool is finding some late form.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

You might be right but I'm not sure.....

Jodie should have been flying up the rankings before now. A good year before. So should Freya.

And when you watch them you can see some clear reasons why - and it's partly due to coaching (in my view). Both of them.

Finn hasn't achieved anything like what he wanted, by his own admission (although that's not necessarily JTC's fault).

Ryan, despite injuries, also seems to me to show coaching issues.

George is too young to make a judgement - he's just learning his way round adult tennis so no problem there (Jack, as I admitted, has obviously learnt his way round amazingly quickly). Glasspool is a basically a product of his college days, and has also been injured, so less dependent on JTC's coaching for technique and strategy.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Jodie second up on Court 3, so any time really between 12.30 and 2am, it's not streamed either. The other qualifier 2nd on is.

indiana · Tennis legend

Having followed Jodie's progress as she approached the end of her time in juniors and was moving more into senior tournaments and in particular watched her live looking close to taking out eventual Australian Open Girls champion, Marta Kostyuk, in January 2017, I do think it rather anomalous to her apparent potential that she was outside the top 500 ( WR 503 ) 18 months later, in the first rankings of August this year when already aged 19 ( she ended 2017 WR 537 ). That was 18 months of not pushing on as could be expected.

The recent upturn in results and apparent performances is very welcome but I do think certainly not before time, and hopefully she can continue on a solid upwards path. Looking at least towards top 300 next year seems very reasonable to me.

I knew nothing of the JTC set up so leave that to others but interesting to read the varying thoughts.