Weeks 35 & 36 - US Open, Flushing Meadows - Men's Singles (Hard)

Jeff Stelling · Club Coach

Weeks 35 & 36 - US Open, Flushing Meadows - Men's Singles (Hard)

the addict · Tennis legend

3-5* and Cam breaks back. Now it's 5-5*

flamingowings · All-time great

Nice one Cameron! Breaks again for *6-5

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Norrie takes the first set, 7-5. Really looks up for this.

the addict · Tennis legend

Pretty impressive from Cam, some excellent points and taking control.

JonH · All-time great

Next round opponent would be lajovic who beat the seeded Dzumhur today in 4.

flamingowings · All-time great

In the match between the two young Canadians, Felix has a break on Shappo

flamingowings · All-time great

Cam up *4-3

Vandenburg · Futures level

JonH wrote:
Andy seems to be getting over the line and also managed a 3 hour plus, 3 1/2 hour match. Kudos to him.

As for Kyle, my view is that points are points and over a year your ranking tells it like it is. But it is clear he will fall and longer term I think he will end up floating between 20-50 sometimes at the top end and sometimes at the bottom. And that is fine. Sort of sub rusedski but above jeremy Bates and Andrew castle as I think he'll survive long term at that level.

Really nice summing up here, that I agree with. After the fluke AO semi, the hype machine from the media and this forum went into overdrive. Fact is that Kyle is a steady ATP 250 player/top 50 and will probably spend the majority of his career between 30-50 in the rankings.

Norrie whilst he does not have obvious major weapon, just seems to have something about him, that could be top 30 also but never top 20.

Murray played a futures player today, so really not reading anything into this, tobasco in the next round will be very hard, his forehand could destroy Murray.

flamingowings · All-time great

Speculation as to if Kyle has had glandular fever (seems awfully prevalent in tennis players?) (From post presser Twitter comments)

-- Edited by flamingowings on Monday 27th of August 2018 10:11:48 PM

nicofrance · Strong Club Player

Norrie what are you doing? In total command playing really well and then out of nowhere a string of errors to hand the set . Points for a double break and then it all fell apart . Norrie should be winning this match , no excuses just do it!

JonH · All-time great

3Rd set cam despite a weird game where he served a variety of double faults and service winners back to back. Not sure cam is playing that well but he's winning I guess.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
L128: Andy Murray WR 382 defeated James Duckworth (AUS) WR 448 by 6-7(5) 6-3 7-5 6-3
*****
L64: Andy Murray WR 382 vs (31) Fernando Verdasco (ESP) WR 32 (CH = 7 in April 2009)

L128: Cameron Norrie WR 67 defeated Jordan Thompson (AUS) WR 108 by 7-5 4-6 6-4 6-3

*****

L64: Cameron Norrie WR 67 vs Dusan Lajovic (SRB) WR 62 (CH = 56 in June)

The Serb took out Dzumhur (24) in four...

Nix · Futures level

flamingowings wrote:
Nix wrote:
Jaggy1876 wrote:
indiana wrote:
Yes, no repeat at all of Kyle's great Australian Open run which started in R1 with (11) Kevin Anderson, which by his own fine win there helped open the immediate following rounds and later had that QF win against (3) Dimitrov so he finally emerged from that quarter by also beating the highest seed in that quarter.

But some folk want to continue to spin another tale and/or totally discount it all whatever mention is made of such.

It certainly wasn't the worst overall draw but the repetitive rewrite to a lucky / fortunate run gets rather irritating even if at times ignored.
I wish ( as no doubt does Kyle!) that there had been better follow-up through the rest of the year but it was a fine couple of weeks.

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 27th of August 2018 06:43:22 PM
Indiana your post is obviously aimed at me so Ill clarify a few points for you here. The Aus Open run was very fortunate, it was a poor Slam in a lot of ways, many top players out or half-fit. Anderson is beatable if his serve isnt on and Dimitrov as weve seen this year is very erratic and inconstant. The relevance of this and some clever points gathering is that expectation is too high, which has been evident here by people looking to see who he will meet in quarters/last 16 etc. He isnt Andy Murray and never will be in terms of level so this is plain daft. And he isnt a top 16 player in reality. Any disappointment in his result therefore must be looked at objectively and realistically. Lorenzi plays almost exclusively on clay, is 36 years old and hasnt played on hard court since January.
Anyway lets see how Cam gets on now, more potential in Cam than Kyle after and will be our number 1 or 2 in a few months post Australia Open, depending on where Andy is of course.
Whether or not hes a top 16 player is a fair argument. Im not sure judging his potential based on this match is fair at all. Im not sure if you saw any of it but he could barely stand up straight. Kudos to him for gutsing out the match because it was tough to watch. I also think its harsh to compare him to Andy: definitely our best player in recent times and one of the top players in an era of great mens tennis at the elite level.
That's just the way it goes though...Andy himself gets compared (& falls short) to Federer, Rafa and Novak.

Yes but sometimes the tone on here is rather unkind to Kyle for not being as good as Andy. I havent been on the board that long but Id be surprised if people were treating Andy as if hed got no hope of ever beating Djoko, Rafa or Fed and even the sense that he might as well have given up cos he was never going to reach that level. Also, some players take longer to mature: the aforementioned Kevin Anderson didnt make the top twenty until the age of 27. Even if Kyle fluked it, he managed it at 23. Yes its all about opinions. Mine is that its fantastic to have a top twenty player for British tennis to encourage all of our players that its possible, however they get there.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

flamingowings wrote:
Speculation as to if Kyle has had glandular fever (seems awfully prevalent in tennis players?) (From post presser Twitter comments)

-- Edited by flamingowings on Monday 27th of August 2018 10:11:48 PM

In the Daily Fail, and others, Kyle claiming that it's not glandular fever but a 'recurring viral illness' and it's lingering effects.

Either way, and maybe he would have lost whatever, but hope he's OK.

As I do for poor Felix A-A - a truly super young talent but who has 'heart issues' (probably tachycardia) and was forced to stop (immediately!) yesterday. All the best, young man.

Meanwhile, Andy and Cam got through, which is worth a big smile biggrin