Week 32 - Slovakia F3 - Bratislava ($15,000) (clay)

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Week 32 - Slovakia F3 - Bratislava ($15,000) (clay)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Jack currently 2-3*

Madadman · Masters Series Champion

Oakland2002 wrote:
KK wrote:
Will it be the case that if Paul Jubb continues to do extremely well, after this year he won't find it easy to test himself in more difficult tournaments as Cameron Norrie did and make a decision to drop out of university? How difficult will it be under the new system for university students, who are restricted to a small number of ITF tournaments, to gain enough points to play in the higher level tournaments?
I cant see it being a problem, the USTA see college tennis as a pathway to the pros and have invested significantly in it. As well as encouraging pros to live around and use the national centre in Orlando they also see it as a hub for developing the college game. Undoubtedly there will be opportunities for the top college players to test themselves against pros, indeed many colleges have futures tournaments in their schedule. Pauls do, indeed he played in one last year with his fellow game****s. The SEC conference in which Paul plays is arguably the strongest and this is reinforced by a tough outer conference schedule, playing number he will be playing the best college players week in week out. ie. 15-25 k level only realky if he can get in the top 1-5 nationally as Cam did could you argue he is running out of opposition.

I dont think the problem is being able to play Futures/transition tour of whatever they call it. I thinks its about moving up to Challenger. As far as I understand you will need to be near the top of the transition tour rankings to be able to get one of the 4 q spots in Challengers. This will be tough if playing a reduced transition tour due to college.

Ive probably got this all wrong anyway.

Michael D · All-time great

Oakland2002 wrote:
The mascot of the University of South Carolina is a strange looking beast known as a Game**** and the monica applied to their athletes and sports teams, unfortunate but true.

Had to google it to work out what this censored mascot is... ok, see now it is the opposite gender to a gamehen!

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Jack has had to retire at 2-6 0-1 down.

Hope he's OK and well done on a very good week.

Rest up !

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

SF: (WC) Alex Molcan (SVK) WR 796 defeated (Q) Jack Draper UNR by 6-2 1-0 retired

I sincerely hope it's not a serious injury.

brendan · Strong Club Player

Oakland2002 wrote:
The mascot of the University of South Carolina is a strange looking beast known as a Game**** and the monica applied to their athletes and sports teams, unfortunate but true.

you could easily circumvent their ridiculously oversensitive censorship by changing the o to 0, if even staunchly conservative South Carolina can stand to see it I'm sure we can

KK · Club Coach

Is that a record for British retirements in a week?

KK · Club Coach

Madadman wrote:
Oakland2002 wrote:
KK wrote:
Will it be the case that if Paul Jubb continues to do extremely well, after this year he won't find it easy to test himself in more difficult tournaments as Cameron Norrie did and make a decision to drop out of university? How difficult will it be under the new system for university students, who are restricted to a small number of ITF tournaments, to gain enough points to play in the higher level tournaments?
I cant see it being a problem, the USTA see college tennis as a pathway to the pros and have invested significantly in it. As well as encouraging pros to live around and use the national centre in Orlando they also see it as a hub for developing the college game. Undoubtedly there will be opportunities for the top college players to test themselves against pros, indeed many colleges have futures tournaments in their schedule. Pauls do, indeed he played in one last year with his fellow game****s. The SEC conference in which Paul plays is arguably the strongest and this is reinforced by a tough outer conference schedule, playing number he will be playing the best college players week in week out. ie. 15-25 k level only realky if he can get in the top 1-5 nationally as Cam did could you argue he is running out of opposition.
I dont think the problem is being able to play Futures/transition tour of whatever they call it. I thinks its about moving up to Challenger. As far as I understand you will need to be near the top of the transition tour rankings to be able to get one of the 4 q spots in Challengers. This will be tough if playing a reduced transition tour due to college.
Ive probably got this all wrong anyway.

Yes. That was what I was worried about. Students who play a few transition tour tournaments in their holidays may not be able to amass enough points (despite being better players than those who do) to get one of the 4 Q spots in Challengers. They will have to wait until they finish University. So if Paul proved to be as good as Cam, he would not be able to test himself in Challengers and gain enough points to make it a good bet giving up his studies and launching himself on the tour full time.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

It's 4 MD spots. It's 3 Q spots.

" ATP Challenger tournaments (men) will reserve 4 places in the Main Draw for the top ITF World Ranked players who enter, and an additional 3 places in the Qualifying Draw."

Oakland2002 · All-time great

I honestly don't think it will be a big deal, there are very few college players ripping up challengers before they drop out of college, it is not unusual for players to take a sabbatical/drop out of the Autumn term and really try their hand at pro tennis ... it is in everyone's best interest, college coaches local tournaments, USTA the college programmes etc ..... to help the transition of potential ATP players who are excelling on the college circuit, there aren't many so when they come along I am sure it will be facilitated.

-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Saturday 11th of August 2018 09:52:01 PM